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Not ONE of you a**hole Nayboobs understands that IN FACT -- the  commercial corner at the Four Corners will remain vacant and undeveloped unless part of that neighborhood is re-zoned to commercial...... The NNTP/GOP GOON squad thinks that THEY are the only ones who can get tough -- we will SEE about THAT.. I predict the Town Council will see the light on this very important matter that resonates THROUGHOUT the Town and affects ALL of the residents --- NOT just a select few Republican backers and Nattering Nitwitted Nayboobs!


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Quoted from Hamburg
Not ONE of you a**hole Nayboobs understands that IN FACT -- the  commercial corner at the Four Corners will remain vacant and undeveloped unless part of that neighborhood is re-zoned to commercial...... The NNTP/GOP GOON squad thinks that THEY are the only ones who can get tough -- we will SEE about THAT.. I predict the Town Council will see the light on this very important matter that resonates THROUGHOUT the Town and affects ALL of the residents --- NOT just a select few Republican backers and Nattering Nitwitted Nayboobs!



Oh, so what YOU are saying is there is not one, NOT EVEN ONE, business that will EVER want to develop on that location!!!!    Not unless they can develop in such a way that results in jeopardizing the safety of children, not unless they can develop in a way that they can have heavy trucks driving there.

Gee, so CVS will close at another location, UH, what will go there???????


Explain WHY the absolutely postive ONLY place in the WHOLE FREAKIN' TOWN that CVS can go is on RESIDENTIAL STREET where people bought their homes long ago, where children play, where children wait for school buses, etc.     Put the damn on the front lawn of DV!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As you do NOT own property, do NOT have a wife, do NOT have children to be concerned with, YOU HAVE NO CLUE.





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MikeChristine needs to explain why he  a) makes up statements about other people without knowing ANY facts, b) why he makes up what he thinks other people were thinking -- when the fact is that he doesn't have a clue and  c) why the hell he is such a dumb f*** and keeps accusing me of making statements that Hamburg or Smoking Bananas or some other imposter.      

And if he actually wanted to know the answers to his questions -- he should man up, stop hiding behind a screen name and actually ask the questions face-to-face.   My guess is that he is too much of a coward to ever do that.


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Why is it that we answer your questions and you hedge everytime you are asked .

No one on this blog is hiding or a coward...you are one...you hide behind your statements of

foul mouth and Nayboobing any chance you get....that's your way out....you are the coward.

Another opinion....you say NO because you are told to.....and then when the actual vote from

TB it will be YES.....it's a way to bamboozle the residents.....question and confuse....Calder

hedged...last year he said YES against FDG who wanted it....now it's "I DUNNO KNOW"//

THE PLAN IS IN PLACE AND DISCUSSED IN SOMEONE'S LIVING ROOM.....THAT'S THE WAY THIS

REGIME GOVERNS>  you are part of the plan .....you are in cahoots.....and you are the

mole.
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Quoted from Patches


Why is it that we answer your questions and you hedge everytime you are asked .

No one on this blog is hiding or a coward...you are one...you hide behind your statements of

foul mouth and Nayboobing any chance you get....that's your way out....you are the coward.

Another opinion....you say NO because you are told to.....and then when the actual vote from

TB it will be YES.....it's a way to bamboozle the residents.....question and confuse....Calder

hedged...last year he said YES against FDG who wanted it....now it's "I DUNNO KNOW"//

THE PLAN IS IN PLACE AND DISCUSSED IN SOMEONE'S LIVING ROOM.....THAT'S THE WAY THIS

REGIME GOVERNS>  you are part of the plan .....you are in cahoots.....and you are the

mole.


And you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG IN ALL OF YOUR STATEMENTS.


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And you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG IN ALL OF YOUR STATEMENTS.

And you were absolutely wrong at the Planning meeting...can't believe you made such accusations to the residents.  Unbelieveable!



JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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For the record, the residents who objected to the CVS being built did NOT object to "some other retail use" for the properties.   Since the vote was NOT a final vote on approving the building of the CVS pharmacy but was ONLY a vote on whether to recommend rezoning the land from residential to retail business ---- and since the resident did not object to the properties being used for - in their own words - "some other retail purposes" and only objected to it being used by CVS  -- the vote against the negative recommendation was completely appropriate.

No one said that traffic would not be a concern -- the fact is that if "some other retail purpose" is proposed in the future -- it could have as much or more of an impact on traffic than the proposed CVS.   Furthermore, I believe that traffic and safety was a BIGGER problem in the past -- with the long continuous  curb cuts, with people backing out of parking spaces out onto Lawndale, Guilderland and Curry.   I saw a number of accidents and near accidents because of the traffic patterns from the previously existing businesses on that site.

The developer addressed the visual impact with the landscaping and berm -- and there is absolutely NO landscaping now  shielding the residents from the buildings ( or former building in the case of the pizza shop).

The proposed new building would only have been 20 feet high -- which is the same height as the existing dilapidated building on the corner of Curry Road and Guilderland Avenue.

And for the record -- I do believe that there are other sites in town where CVS could build ..  I would recommend the empty pad next to Office Max and the dollar store down by Rotterdam Square Mall as one possibility and there are others.    However, I still believe that Four Corners is also a good location.    I might add that IF the developer had asked me for my advice on site location .. I would have been more than happy to have offered my advice.

Finally, I did not speak to or hear from or receive anything .. even a smoke sign message from any elected or appointed official of the town, county, state or federal government on the subject nor from any "party leader" or in fact from ANY person who said YOU MUST VOTE THIS WAY*  --- But I personally heard from MANY town residents who personally conveyed to me their support for the proposed CVS  .. who are concerned about the current eyesore of a vacant lot and a vacant building  . and who are also concerned by the  anti-development and anti-business attitude within the town  and who are concerned about the high taxes because of our unwillingness to expand our commercial business tax base.   Their voices and concerns have just as much right to be heard and expressed in the form of a public vote FOR the proposed new CVS as the voices and concerns of those who opposed it.

* actually - I should clarify .. I did receive threats, insults, etc from a few persons who opposed the project .. so if anyone is guilty of trying to force someone to vote a certain way it is those few opponents of the project who crossed the line and have chosen to go nuclear on the issue.




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Kinda funny on how rotterdamian town board members are trying to skirt the issue. Especially WC who said he would take the advice of the planning board and now is hedging! Looks like they ALL have to wait for their puppet master, tj hooker to tell themexactly how to vote on this one!

It certainly appears that there is not one full independent thinking rotterdam brain among the 5 of them!!

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And you were absolutely wrong at the Planning meeting...can't believe you made such accusations to the residents.  Unbelieveable!



To the first part of your statement, I respectfully disagree with your opinion.  

To the second part of your statement, you are just out and out lying .. no "accusations" were made to the residents.  


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I don't want to drive all the way to Chrysler Ave for my perscriptions. and i agree that DVOR is hamburg and is a jerk!
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I don't want to drive all the way to Chrysler Ave for my perscriptions. and i agree that DVOR is hamburg and is a jerk!


Sometimes they refute each other. One like McDonald's and one prefers Burger Thing. Very much proof they are NOT the same. Plus I note that DVOR posts something then a few minutes later and Hamburg says something slightly opposite, then DV admonishes Hamburg. So considering DVOR has so much credibility, I would say that they are totally different people ( )


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Not ONE of you a**hole Nayboobs understands that IN FACT -- the  commercial corner at the Four Corners will remain vacant and undeveloped unless part of that neighborhood is re-zoned to commercial...... The NNTP/GOP GOON squad thinks that THEY are the only ones who can get tough -- we will SEE about THAT.. I predict the Town Council will see the light on this very important matter that resonates THROUGHOUT the Town and affects ALL of the residents --- NOT just a select few Republican backers and Nattering Nitwitted Nayboobs!


FIND SOMETHING WITH CLASS YOU A$$HOLE.....


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senders, what the heck is patina?
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Quoted from Stringer
I don't want to drive all the way to Chrysler Ave for my perscriptions. and i agree that DVOR is hamburg and is a jerk!


Well you are wrong - I am NOT Hamburg.  As to  whether you think I am a jerk or not -- I don't lose sleep over it.


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To the first part of your statement, I respectfully disagree with your opinion.  

To the second part of your statement, you are just out and out lying .. no "accusations" were made to the residents.  


“The thing that concerns me is that the opposition seems to be … isn’t that they are objecting it to being a retail business, but they are objecting to it being a CVS,” Severson said.
You accused them of being negative becuase it is a CVS instead of hearing their comppaints were about the issues around having a big box store.  And the people in attendace shouted "NO".......how can you not understand that?


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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