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The president and the Dems want to deflect attention to anything but Obama's record that's why they are running such a negative campaign due to the lack of anything positive to talk about especially Obamacare.
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it's very easy to unclog the pipeline....

everyone HALT!!! NO PAYMENTS/NO WORK/NO NOTHIN'....

RESET!!!!!......

they are only 1%'ers right now because our fiat system has VALUE....

show me the VALUE OF MY TAX DOLLARS....

we can devalue our fiat by not using it......those 1%ers become NOTHING!!!!!!!!!

WE LET THEM HAVE OUR FOOD SUPPLY IN A PIPELINE WE LET THEM CREATE...SAYING FARMING IS TOO HARD...WE WANT TO
LIVE IN THE CITY...BOO HOO HOO....

OR HOW ABOUT...I'M SO POOR I CAN'T UPGRADE MY DAMN PHONE UNLESS I BUY OUT THE CONTRACT but I did stay at a
Holiday Inn Express.....

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE 1%'ERS....and every crumb that gets dropped we all say in unison:

"AT LEAST THEY DID THAT FOR US. LET'S VOTE FOR THAT GUY/GAL AGAIN."

AT LEAST
AT LEAST
AT LEAST
AT LEAST....BLAH BLAH BLAH.....

AND I'm not sure who to trust about telling us what's FAIR....we have NO clue....and ANY STAT they put out the 99%ers
wouldn't have an f'en clue as to it's meaning, as long as the chart is turned over to look like the AT LEAST has had some
poor pathetic effect in the 99%ers poor pathetic lives, so they can vote again....

SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL

SHOW ME THE SWEAT

SHOW ME THE TRUTH


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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it's very easy to unclog the pipeline....

everyone HALT!!! NO PAYMENTS/NO WORK/NO NOTHIN'....

RESET!!!!!......

they are only 1%'ers right now because our fiat system has VALUE....

show me the VALUE OF MY TAX DOLLARS....

we can devalue our fiat by not using it......those 1%ers become NOTHING!!!!!!!!!


There was a good entry on DailyPaul on this very idea.  Lose the FEAR!

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Winning is Only Achievable Once We Stop Living in Fear

There is only one thing that is keeping us from achieving our freedom once again in this country and it can be described with only one simple word: Fear.

Franklin D. Roosevelt stated “There is nothing to fear but fear itself,” and I cannot think of a more applicable statement than that right now. Fear is our greatest enemy: Fear of the IRS, fear of stepping outside the lines, fear of disobeying so-called “authority.” And the biggest fear of all: Fear of losing our stuff. If there was ever a time in our history when outright civil disobedience was required, it is right now. And if that civil disobedience leads to outright uncivil acts from the enemy, than I say let it come, let everyone see them for exactly what they are - criminals, cowards and murderers.

They can only do what they are doing to us if we ALLOW them to. If enough Americans would just draw that line and say “No More! You can take my house, take my car, take my bank accounts and even take my life, but you’re not going to do it anymore with my consent,” it would just be a matter of time until the whole house of cards fell apart. They don’t have the manpower to enforce their servitude upon an unwilling populace

Stand up America and live up to the fierce, proud and courageous blood line that you descended from! Don’t you understand that you don’t really have anything anymore anyway?! You don’t own your home if it can taken from you (try missing a few property tax payments and you’ll quickly see who REALLY owns it). You don’t even own the fruits of your own labor. Whatever bank account you may have, dwindles each day with the inflation of the never ending printing of their monopoly money. You’ve got shackles around your ankles and wrists and you’re all sitting around thinking that the next draconian law they pass is finally going to be your breaking point, except it’s already the hundredth time you’ve moved that line and tyranny keeps right on steam rolling over you while you wait to act!

Snap yourself out of the trance that they have you in and realize that if we don’t act swiftly, the time to act will be gone and chains will have been forged so tightly around your children and grandchildren’s necks that they will never escape...those of them that survive it that is. And stop kidding yourself that that is not EXACTLY what is at stake here. Make no mistake about it, these people mean to do you and your family harm. In fact, they already have and you’re all just too scared or too blind to admit it. How many more dead or maimed soldiers need to come back from fighting unjust wars to make these scum of the earth more filthy rich than they already are? How many more innocent people have to be slaughtered overseas? How many more people have to lose their jobs, their homes and any dignity they have left? How much more poison needs to be put in your food and your drinking water and your child’s vaccines before you will call it was it is? How many more elections need to be stolen from you?

So many people today will look back to WWII and ask themselves how it was possible that the Jewish people were just led to slaughter the way that they were and didn’t fight back until it was too late...Well if you really want an answer all you have to do is look in the mirror and you’ll have it.

One of my favorite lines from Mel Gibson’s “The Patriot” happens shortly after he goes out and savagely fights to bring his son back from the British troops that had seized him to hang him. He had just watched another son be murdered in front of his eyes and this second one was also about to be killed so he hunted them down and savagely killed the British troops and brought his son home. Afterwards, he is sitting reflecting on what had just happened. He had fought to stay out of the whole revolution for freedom because he thought he was protecting his children and instead he had already lost one and nearly another. His sister in law approaches him because she assumes he feels bad about killing the British soldiers the way he did and she says to him “You have done nothing for which you should be ashamed”, and he looks back at her and says “I have done nothing, and for that I am ashamed”.

This is a plea to all of you that you don’t find yourselves in the same situation someday...wishing you could go back in time and do things differently so that your children don’t pay the ultimate price for your inaction.

This August is our last hope of turning the tide of tyranny which seeks to destroy this country and everything our forbears fought so valiantly to leave for us. I say we give everything we’ve got to get Ron Paul nominated. The people that are delegates need to stop living in fear of what could or might happen and vote for the only person that really cares about saving this once great country and let the chips fall where they may. If necessary, cause a raucous for the whole world to see on national television and show that the American people are not going to go down without a fight. At least you won’t have to look back one day and utter the words “I have done nothing, and for that I am ashamed”.

And If God forbid, Ron Paul does not get the nomination, then the rest of us better realize that this will be the last line in the sand to be drawn. Four more years of anyone else and our country will not survive. The time will have come to withdraw your consent or face utter ruination. You won’t be able to claim that you weren’t warned.

NOTE: Least I be called a hypocrite, I made my stand a long time ago and as a result, I own nothing and never will again without it being unlawfully seized from me. There was not yet enough people willing to stand with me, but my stand in my eyes was not in vain. My biggest fear had always been losing my home and my stuff, and my biggest surprise was that after they were gone, my life did not end. In fact, the process removed my fear because I now know that standing up for truth and justice brings a much deeper happiness and contentment than any worldly possession could ever provide, even when you yourself don’t reap the immediate benefit from it.

Lose your fear and we will win this war.


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There was a good entry on DailyPaul on this very idea.  Lose the FEAR!
Lose your fear and we will win this war.




Who is spreading the F E A R ?

After watching a live tv show re the Obama care....
people need to know the truth about the whole idea and package it represents.
DOCTORS ARE LEAVING AND GIVING UP THEIR PRACTICES......FROM ALL SPECIALTIES...
THIS WAS PASSED WITHOUT MEDICAL REPRESENTATION ....AS IS EVERYTHING ELSE FROM THIS ADMIN
Who lives or dies will be like CLASS CLEANSING....rich will live poor will die ...there is no middle class
So before you select your choice....think long and hard....maybe a different party choice won't be so bad after all.....


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Who is spreading the F E A R ?


Of course it would have to be explained to you.  The fear the writer is talking about is the fear of not consenting to participate in voluntary servitude for fear of losing material possessions. Obamacare is forced servitude, the idea is to stop participating in the economy and starve the power brokers.  Barter when possible, refuse to use credit cards and stop taking out bank loans.  Cut the corporate strings.



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Conservative columnist George Will slammed Mitt Romney on ABC News for failing to fully release information
on his tax returns and offshore accounts, saying Romney "must have calculated that there are higher costs in
releasing them."


Said Will: "If something's going to come out, get it out in a hurry. I do not know why, given that Mitt Romney
knew the day that McCain lost in 2008 that he was going to run for president again that he didn't get all of this
out and tidy up some of his offshore accounts and all the rest. The cost of not releasing the returns are clear.
Therefore, he must have calculated that there are higher costs in releasing them."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Conservative columnist George Will slammed Mitt Romney on ABC News for failing to fully release information
on his tax returns and offshore accounts, saying Romney "must have calculated that there are higher costs in
releasing them."


Said Will: "If something's going to come out, get it out in a hurry. I do not know why, given that Mitt Romney
knew the day that McCain lost in 2008 that he was going to run for president again that he didn't get all of this
out and tidy up some of his offshore accounts and all the rest. The cost of not releasing the returns are clear.
Therefore, he must have calculated that there are higher costs in releasing them."



this is why the INCOME TAX should be abolished....it causes the sheople to have conversations that distract....

which party should we vote for to support this? or is it constitutional? or it communal?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Many of us have IRA's... we invest a few thousand dollars a year, and get a tax break when we cash in that
investment.  Kinda like Mitt Romney's IRA isn't it?

The Secret Behind Romney's Magical IRA
"The most mysterious of the unexplained mysteries about Mitt Romney's considerable wealth is how he was
able to amass between $21 million and $102 million in his individual retirement account during the 15 years
he was at Bain Capital LLC. How did he do it, given the relatively small amounts that the law permits to be
contributed to such a plan on an annual basis?"

Bloomberg
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-15/the-secret-behind-romney-s-magical-ira.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Many of us have IRA's... we invest a few thousand dollars a year, and get a tax break when we cash in that
investment.  Kinda like Mitt Romney's IRA isn't it?

The Secret Behind Romney's Magical IRA
"The most mysterious of the unexplained mysteries about Mitt Romney's considerable wealth is how he was
able to amass between $21 million and $102 million in his individual retirement account during the 15 years
he was at Bain Capital LLC. How did he do it, given the relatively small amounts that the law permits to be
contributed to such a plan on an annual basis?"

Bloomberg
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-15/the-secret-behind-romney-s-magical-ira.html


Probably used the same adviser Hillary did to make those awesome stock profits  


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Probably used the same adviser Hillary did to make those awesome stock profits  


No Hillary made her money on "the Futures Market", a very volatile and risky venture.  Mitt invested,
much like many Americans do, in a very regulated IRA.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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No Hillary made her money on "the Futures Market", a very volatile and risky venture.  Mitt invested,
much like many Americans do, in a very regulated IRA.

Either way... even market experts said her profits and the time it took to get them were "unusual"..
But of course, everything a Dem does is on the level, and everything a pub does is not.  


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Either way... even market experts said her profits and the time it took to get them were "unusual"..
But of course, everything a Dem does is on the level, and everything a pub does is not.  


It's great to blow off every issue with a glib...
"But of course, everything a Dem does is on the level, and everything a pub does is not."
... as if it meant something.  

Hillary made a lot of money on the futures market.  A VERY RISKY form of investments.  On her
initial investment of $6,300, after about 10 months of trading, she made nearly $100,000.

  Romney made possibly over $100,000,000 on an IRA.  The same IRA program that any one
of us can invest in... usually not a high risk, but tax deferred investment.  The contributions
are limited, just like they are for the average IRA investor.

To summarize:

"But of course, everything a Pub does is on the level, and everything a Dem does is not."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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It's great to blow off every issue with a glib...
"But of course, everything a Dem does is on the level, and everything a pub does is not."
... as if it meant something.  

Hillary made a lot of money on the futures market.  A VERY RISKY form of investments.  On her
initial investment of $6,300, after about 10 months of trading, she made nearly $100,000.

  Romney made possibly over $100,000,000 on an IRA.  The same IRA program that any one
of us can invest in... usually not a high risk, but tax deferred investment.  The contributions
are limited, just like they are for the average IRA investor.

To summarize:

"But of course, everything a Pub does is on the level, and everything a Dem does is not."


Where did I say Romney's investments were on the level? I have no idea.The numbers look suspicious.
What I did originally post was a similar example from the other side of the isle that looks just as suspicious.

It was YOU that came to Hillary's defense and brushed it off as a legitimate investment while not giving Romney the same lack of scrutiny..
It's people like you...on both sides, that have caused this mess we call Federal government.
This is not pro wrestling, where there are "bad" guys and "good" guys....


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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This is not pro wrestling, where there are "bad" guys and "good" guys....


...You're right, in both in pro wrestling and national politics, outcome is predetermined and at the end of the show, both the scripted "good guys" and "bad guys" go out and blow coke and screw strippers.  


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Did Romney Commit Perjury?

When Mitt Romney signed a federal financial disclosure form for his current presidential bid, he stated
under the penalty of perjury that he had not been involved "in any way" with Bain Capital after he left
for Utah in February 1999.

During a 2002 hearing to determine if Mitt Romney met the residency requirement to run for governor
Romney said that "after he departed Bain in February 1999 he went through a transition period regarding
his work in Boston."

"When a lawyer challenging his eligibility asked Romney, 'Did you remain more or less continuously in Salt
Lake City from February '99 to the end of the year,' Romney answered:
'Actually, there was some transition away from my work in Boston for the first few months and then I
pretty much stayed there after.' Trying to clarify this, the lawyer, after referring to this 'transition,'
asked, 'So from February through the end of the year you were pretty much full-time out in Utah, right?'
Romney replied: 'Well again, the beginning of the year was a good deal of time back and forth, but
towards the last half of the year it was pretty much exclusively in Utah.'"

"If there was a good deal of time back and forth in the first few months and some
business conducted all the way through to December ('pretty much exclusively'), and if Romney's
own lawyer tells an inquiry that Romney's work for Bain 'continued unabated just as they had,' then
it is incontrovertibly true that Romney's statement under oath that he was not involved 'in any way'
in Bain business after February 1999 was a lie under oath.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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