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Where's Obama's college transcripts and financial data that paid for his college education, if he didn't have something to hide he would release them no different than Romney.
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Where's Romeny's college transcripts and financial data that paid for his college education, if he didn't have something to hide he would release them no different than Obama.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from Shadow
Where's Obama's college transcripts and financial data that paid for his college education, if he didn't have something to hide he would release them no different than Romney.


Obama's grade point average at Columbia was 3.7.
He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School
  (Magna Cum Laude at Harvard is a 3.756 GPA.)


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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On Romney being CEO and having "no responsibilities whatsoever"...

"It would be very unusual for somebody to have the titles... and to have no responsibilities whatsoever.
In fact, I defy Glenn Kessler to come up with any example of anybody anywhere- -- save for Mitt Romney --
who has been characterized to the SEC as 'sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer,
and president' and also claimed to have no responsibilities whatsoever and to have merely been a passive
investor."


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President Obama (along with many in Congress who voted for it) lied when he said that  the A.C.A.'s insurance mandate was not a tax.

President Obama lied when he accused Governor Romney of committing a felony in regards to this Bain Capital issue.

So that leads one to speculate:  What other things has President Obama lied to the American people about?
and,
Can we really place our trust in him for another 4 more years as president?


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President Obama (along with many in Congress who voted for it) lied when he said that  the A.C.A.'s insurance mandate was not a tax.

President Obama lied when he accused Governor Romney of committing a felony in regards to this Bain Capital issue.

So that leads one to speculate:  What other things has President Obama lied to the American people about?
and,
Can we really place our trust in him for another 4 more years as president?


~ "President Obama... lied when he said that  the A.C.A.'s insurance mandate was not a tax."
But Mitt Romney agrees with Obama, that ACA is a penalty, not a tax...
SO if Obama lied... Romney lied too.


~ "President Obama lied when he accused Governor Romney of committing a felony in regards to this
Bain Capital issue."

Except every day there is more and more evidence that it was Romney who lied about Bain, and that
would mean that Obama told the truth.


~So that leads one to speculate:  What other things has Mitt Romney lied to the American people about?
and,
Can we really place our trust in Romney as president?




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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President Obama lied when he accused Governor Romney of committing a felony in regards to this Bain Capital issue.

Okay, show me verifiable evidence that President Obama said this....everything I've read states it comes from the Obama camp, but no where does it state that Obama has personally made such a statement. SHOW ME !!!!



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~ "President Obama... lied when he said that  the A.C.A.'s insurance mandate was not a tax."
But Mitt Romney agrees with Obama, that ACA is a penalty, not a tax...
SO if Obama lied... Romney lied too.


~ "President Obama lied when he accused Governor Romney of committing a felony in regards to this
Bain Capital issue."

Except every day there is more and more evidence that it was Romney who lied about Bain, and that
would mean that Obama told the truth.


~So that leads one to speculate:  What other things has Mitt Romney lied to the American people about?
and,
Can we really place our trust in Romney as president?





I don't recall Governor Romney making a statement saying it was or wasn't a tax when the legislation creating Massachusetts' insurance plan  was being debated and voted on in --- it was only YEARS later and AFTER the Supreme Court decision about Obamacare that Romney made a statement that he believed that the insurance mandate in Massachusetts was a tax.  Read the US Constitution --- no where in the Constitution does it give the FEDERAL government power over health insurance,  It is the STATES that have the power to regulate health care and health insurance.  So Romney didn't lie -- Obama and the members of Congress who voted for A.C.A. lied because that was the only way to get the legislation passed and, with Chief Justice Roberts' questionable court ruling, get the Supreme Court to approve this otherwise unconstitutional usurpation of powers held only by the states.  
To make the claim that Governor Romney lied on this issue - you would have to provide proof that when the Massachusetts legislation was being debated and voted on that Governor Romney made a statement denying it was a tax.

Everyday, I see more and more evidence that Governor Romney did NOT lie or mislead anyone about his role at Bain Capital.  

And yes -- I trust Governor Romney many times more than I do President Obama.


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Well, DVOR doesn't try to present verfiable facts, but I did find this recent article where Obama says Romney needs to address the Bain issue
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....n-february-1999?lite


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Well, DVOR doesn't try to present verfiable facts, but I did find this recent article where Obama says Romney needs to address the Bain issue
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....n-february-1999?lite


I am pretty sure that if Mitt Romney had actually or possibly committed a felony in his reporting to the SEC that the matter would have been dealt with (charges filed, disciplinary action taken) years ago.  The SEC is not a lightweight when it comes to these matters and since the alleged felonious actions, Romney ran for, was elected and served as governor, ran for president and was even vetted by the FBI as a possible running mate to John McCain in 2008 and he has been running for president a second time for over two years.  
The lie or rumor has been out there for so many years that I find it impossible to believe that the SEC, the FBI and opposition research of at least a dozen or more political opponents (and probably hundreds of more political enemies) did not pursue the matter.  

Bottomline -- there is NOTHING to this lie which Obama has thrown out there ... just like there is NOTHING to Obama's plan to stimulate the economy and create jobs.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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Don't misunderstand me....I have not made my decision yet...but I do want to know everything I can before I do that.



Point taken.........but where ya gonna get your info from....THE LAME STREAM MEDIA???? Who ya gonna believe, the spin from the left
or the spin from the right?

this country has been moving in the same direction for decades. Don't matter...rep or dem or bush, or clinton or raegan or obama or romney.
We are global now. We have a global economic system and soon to be a global monetary system(the banks are working on that as we post)....and someday in the near future...
a global leader!! Sorry folks.......but socialism is already here! You may have the freedom to vote, but you will in fact still live under a socialistic government....dem or rep!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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even if Romney/Obama lied about the 'tax' thing...it really doesn't matter...changing the 'F'EN' name doesn't change
how the sheep are to enter the pen....

IT'S OUR OWN FAULT......!!!!!!

IT'S SHEARING TIME.....although most of us may not be first in line, we will be compelled to 'donate'.....

GET THE 'F' OFF MY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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even if Romney/Obama lied about the 'tax' thing...it really doesn't matter...changing the 'F'EN' name doesn't change
how the sheep are to enter the pen....

IT'S OUR OWN FAULT......!!!!!!

IT'S SHEARING TIME.....although most of us may not be first in line, we will be compelled to 'donate'.....

GET THE 'F' OFF MY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Then why vote?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Then why vote?


you tell me...you seem to have more experience


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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