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joebxr
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Wahhhh....Wahhhhh...Wahhhhh....

There was nothing constructive added to the thread when you posted the link about his comments in Israel.  How the hell do you say it had nothing to do with foreign policy - WHEN ROMNEY'S COMMENTS WERE ABOUT ISREAL AND PALESTINE!  Are you delusional?  Do you even remember what you post?  I can't comment about the CONTEXT of Romney's actions?  Or is the only acceptable reply on this thread have to be 'I think Romney's great, and Obama sucks, and Democrats bad, Republicans good or visa versa?

You offered an opinion and a link about Romney's Palestinian comments in an attempt to damage his character.  Your post makes it clear that you are not going to vote for Romney because of comments made overseas.  Which I have NO PROBLEM with - it is all fair game - if that is important to you, that's fine.  But you can't cry when myself and many others don't give a sh*t about the Israel/Palestine issue and are not persuaded about how some Palestinians feel about Romney's comments.  For a growing number of people, they are sick of the perpetual involvement and money spent babysitting Israel and Palestine.

So you can continue gnashing your teeth about Mitt Romney's comments in England, Israel, and maybe now even in Poland.  For many of us, we will continue to not give a sh*t.

Buenas Noches!


WOW....seems you're the one crying here becuase you've been called out for what you are. Can't read well, huh? I don't give a damn about discussing government policy...it's the person and his delussional thoughts that he has the right to, amongst everything else. And yes, I believed this thread was about his suitability, and was offering my thoughts about that...not about government foreign policies. All my posting are related to Mitt's positions and actions. You don't give a damn about my position???? Then why did you feel necesary to reply to my posting and do your famous twist and shout! Get over yourself. You can't carry on a conversation without injecting your miserable attitude about everything in life, fine. That's your problem...and likely one of more. Think that vacuum is located somewhere else....go pop another Colt 45 and chill out............SEE YA!


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I'll go back to my original response to your post.  Who cares about what the Palestinians think about what the United States Presidential candidates have to say about their territorial disputes.  And more importantly, WHY DO AMERICANS CARE ABOUT HOW ISRAEL AND PALESTINE RESOLVE THEIR TERRITORIAL DISPUTES?


I agree. Let the Israelis and Palestinians sort it out.

Let Syria sort out it's own problems as well.

And let's not forget the Israel vs. Iran issue. Again, not our business.

If America is not being threatened we have no business taking a stand in the matter.

We owe nothing to any of these countries.

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Cic just defined himself as an ISOLATIONIST!  

It applies when you ask him about the environment, about the poor, about jobs, about veterans...
HE JUST DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF IT.  HE JUST CARES ABOUT HIMSELF



The treatment of the poor, jobs, the environment and veterans all pertain to American citizens.

Foreign government toppling and empire building are not matters that Americans should be concerned with.

Taking the lives of people outside the US using US forces or technology is a matter that American citizens should
be worried about since it places them in harms way, by creating more enemies.

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What's isolationist about staying out of other countries problems, I would say his stance is more non-interventionist, big difference by the way.



The term is neutrality.

It's much cheaper than bombs and human lives.

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My post didn't reflect your definition.  Still in favor for trading with Israel and Palestine.  Not calling for trade sanctions. That would be isolationism.


Perhaps if the Israelis and Palestinians spent some of their money on some John Deere tractors and irrigation
equipment instead of guns and bombs, they would be much better off.

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"Let's face it, Romney can't win, but Obama can lose."
(GOP consultant Ed Rogers)


Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....gJQA5rudLX_blog.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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He's a self-serving pompous blowhard.....goes all over like he's Mr. Wonderful, but can't take the time out from his visits to drop in on our troops in the middle east. That's a visit that would have been a help for his image, but he didn't even consider it.


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The least Romney can do is visit American troops stationed on the bases in foreign lands.  If he wants to be the U.S. imperial leader, he needs to pay homage to the men and women in the occupying forces.  The last thing I am concerned about is Romney's actual foreign policy, or as the pundits call it, "the Romney doctrine".  As long he is acting all presidential and saying all the proper things, he is fit to be president.


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why should any visit the troops overseas.....the troops are just fodder in elections....but it makes for GREAT MOVIES AND TV...

I don't mean this disrespectfully to those who CHOSE to be a soldier...

as a sovereign nation that hates when it's troops go to 'war', how do we decide on when it is appropriate?

when is NOT being isolationist and 'getting involved for the good of mankind' OK...???

who draws those line?
the experts?
the 1%'ers?
the weapons manufacturers?
the oil tycoons?
the car companies?
the unions?
the contracts?
the tariffs?
the trade agreements?
the drug trade?

I mean honestly Box let's explore your boundaries.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I mean honestly SENDERS,  a side trip to the troops is what we refer to as a MORALE BOOSTER. When far away from home, it's nice to know that you are respected, regardless of the conflict or politics behind it, as "people" we just want support and respect. My point was that Mitt was on a tour for PERSONAL GAIN and could have done a lot for troop morale for those that he could have visited....by they way...THEY VOTE TOO!!!!!


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I mean honestly SENDERS,  a side trip to the troops is what we refer to as a MORALE BOOSTER. When far away from home, it's nice to know that you are respected, regardless of the conflict or politics behind it, as "people" we just want support and respect. My point was that Mitt was on a tour for PERSONAL GAIN and could have done a lot for troop morale for those that he could have visited....by they way...THEY VOTE TOO!!!!!


my post wasn't about having issue with him visiting the troops...my post was about Box claiming isolationism...
I think EVERY politician should visit the troops...over and over and over and over and over again....
no hotel
no fancy plane ride
no fancy car trip etc etc.....

my post was a *tic*

and YES all politicians show up to kiss babies, shake hands, and rah rah rah the troops.....

they become like a side show of sorts to non-isolationism....great for podium/election fodder....even better
when the president was one who served....actively...

but blue bloods, no matter the ethnicity talk about uniforms...they don't get them dirty....

good job to those who chose...


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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my post wasn't about having issue with him visiting the troops...my post was about Box claiming isolationism...

My post about 'isolationism' was a response concerned Cicero... nothing to do with Romney.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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My post about 'isolationism' was a response concerned Cicero... nothing to do with Romney.


Yeah...Not wanting to bomb Libya in support of the "rebels", or not supporting foreign aid and weapons to Israel to help suppress the Palestinians is "isolationism" in 2012.


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just thought I'd mention that subject of this thread is....
Romney For President 2012?


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My post about 'isolationism' was a response concerned Cicero... nothing to do with Romney.


I know...but I thought you would find his little show as pleasing as the rest of the circus performers

it IS all about the troops being used, isn't it? all in the name of non-isolationism, of course only according to
a certain view...

I don't disagree with your view completely, it's just that your choice of drawing the line is pretty much the same as
everyone else's....

we can't not have troops if we are going to make religious friends....history has shown us this....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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