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maybe the elder leaders need to realize that this is NOT the same town of their youth.....it is more populated and the building of MFRH at the rate it
has been over the past 30 years at the will of the local developers and 'big fish' without comprehensive future planning is what got us here.....

now either retire and get the hell out already or stop being rednecks........THIS IS A TOWN that is getting OLD.....there is nothing ya'll have done for
future growth......it's wonder the supervisor said there are 'racetracks all over town' and even his property.....westside ave isn't even close to his
property......isn't dellavilla the one who cant decide whether he is a dump owner or dirtbike supporter???? honestly folks......this is soooooo
embarassing.............

mean while the septic effluent flows in coldbrook and around the mayor of Hamburg street's kingdom.......PATHETIC.......


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Residents revved up over dirt track

John Purcell 09/15/10

Neighbors fault Rotterdam officials with not enforcing town code

Neighbors of a parcel of land at Maple Street and Wedgewood Heights in Rotterdam are calling for the sound of silence, or at least a stop to the constant drone of dirt bikes and ATVs from sunrise to sunset.

For the second time in eight months, residents brought their concerns about the dirt track to the Town Board at the Wednesday, Sept. 8, meeting, and asked why town officials were not enforcing the town code requiring a permit to operate what they are calling a racetrack.

“It doesn’t take eight months for these member of the board to decide what one definition means,” said Phillip Hurst, who lives on Dodge Street near the track. “There is 43 years of legal precedence on this particular town code, it didn’t just come into being last week. This has been on the books for a long time, and three-quarters of the town does not have racetracks.”

Marc Della Villa owns the Light Industrial-zoned land at Maple Street and Wedgewood Heights tat is being used as a track for dirt bikes and ATVs. On May 13, residents met with Rotterdam Town Supervisor Frank Del Gallo, Councilman Matt Martin and Deputy Town Attorney Michael Godlewski to discuss concerns about the noise and dust coming from the site, but the situation has remained unchanged.

Hurst said he has given the Town Board video and photographic evidence showing individuals racing in front of an audience, as well as a petition signed by neighbors of the track, but nothing has been done to address the issue.

“You haven’t answered anything. That is negligent; you’re not doing anything about it,” Hurst told town officials Wednesday. “Two hours of this board’s time could solve this matter.”

Del Gallo said the town code regarding the track is too broad to enforce, and he said if the contested property is to be considered a racetrack, then several other residents would be found in violation of the current code.

Councilman Gerard Parisi, however, said there is really no good reason for the issue dragging on.

“It is very clear that it is a racetrack under our code, and it is very clear that the building department should enforce the code,” said Parisi. “For whatever reason, and I don’t know what it is, I never get an answer, and the town administration refuses to deal with this problem.”

Although Del Gallo said they have not discussed the issue, Parisi said he has spoken to supervisor about it in the past and has the e-mail messages to prove it.

Rotterdam town code defines a racetrack as “any ground, area or track upon which races, contestants or demonstrators of skill or stunts are conducted for the enjoyment or entertainment of the public or for the gratification of the contestants who use go-carts, stock cars, motor scooters, midget autos, motorcycles, motor vehicles or any other vehicle that is propelled by more than human power.”..................>>>>...................>>>>..................http://www.spotlightnews.com/news/view_news.php?news_id=1284603037
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The ordinance against racetracks has been on the books for many years.  I remember when my
brother was in high school .. would have to be around 1971 or 1972 .. and he and some friends
rode dirt bikes on the side yard at my grandparents' home on Guilderland Ave.    They were told
by the authorities .. way back then .. that it was against the law to be racing their dirt bikes and
that put a stop to it.

If it was against the law 38 or 39 years ago .. and the same law is on the books today .. it is
against the law today.


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I guess you have to be a FOF (friend of Frank) in order to have your own personal race track in the town.


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I guess you have to be a FOF (friend of Frank) in order to have your own personal race track in the town.


actually - Mr. Kirvin was Supervisor back in the 1970's - so being a FOF would not have mattered.


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They were told by the authorities


and just where and who are our authorities


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They were told by the authorities


and just where and who are our authorities


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actually - Mr. Kirvin was Supervisor back in the 1970's - so being a FOF would not have mattered.


but it is FDG that is not enforcing the law..


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that racing area was not built in the 70's it is brand new!


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Its a police issue.  If your neighbor has his son's band playing until 2:00am you call the police? If your neighbor runs a dairy farm and the milking machines run every morning 4:00am you call the police?  If your neighbor mows his lawn every Tuesday after your infant son goes to sleep you call the police?  If the train shakes your house the same time every night you call the police?

People, this is an industrial zoned part of town, dump trucks, heavy equipment, air wrenches, pallet grinders, trains, planes and automobiles.  Non-issue MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!
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Its a police issue.  If your neighbor has his son's band playing until 2:00am you call the police? If your neighbor runs a dairy farm and the milking machines run every morning 4:00am you call the police?  If your neighbor mows his lawn every Tuesday after your infant son goes to sleep you call the police?  If the train shakes your house the same time every night you call the police?

People, this is an industrial zoned part of town, dump trucks, heavy equipment, air wrenches, pallet grinders, trains, planes and automobiles.  Non-issue MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!

Not EVEN CLOSE. Its a statute enforcement issue, more appropriate for zoning to handle.  All those business types you mention REQUIRE proper insurance to operate in those zones.
I seriously doubt this guy has insurance that covers speed contests. I almost hope someone breaks a leg and then sues that a** for all he is worth. I have lived near this area for 19 years. I have NEVER heard dump trucks, heavy equipment, air wrenches, and pallet grinders. The ONLY thing I have heard is the dirt bikes and ATV's. I live far enough so its not bothersome, but I can only imagine what people on Dodge street must hear.


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that racing area was not built in the 70's it is brand new!


My response was to a question about a previous post that I had made about my oldest brother
and his friends racing dirt bikes on a property in the town in the early 1970's.


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My response was to a question about a previous post that I had made about my oldest brother
and his friends racing dirt bikes on a property in the town in the early 1970's.


And that's the problem with this town..nepotism, selective enforcement, and the good 'ole boy network.
In my neighborhood, there was a guy running a car repair business in a residential zoned area, we're not talking about 1 or 2 cars at a time, try 10 or more cars on the property at one time.
This business was run this way for at least 15 years, clearly in violation of zoning regs and DOT regs (no DMV repair shop license sign on premises), and the town did NOTHING. The town knew about it...I saw RPD police cars, and town vehicles on site...and it just so happens the proprietor is a town employee..just one of many examples.


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And that's the problem with this town..nepotism, selective enforcement, and the good 'ole boy network.
In my neighborhood, there was a guy running a car repair business in a residential zoned area, we're not talking about 1 or 2 cars at a time, try 10 or more cars on the property at one time.
This business was run this way for at least 15 years, clearly in violation of zoning regs and DOT regs (no DMV repair shop license sign on premises), and the town did NOTHING. The town knew about it...I saw RPD police cars, and town vehicles on site...and it just so happens the proprietor is a town employee..just one of many examples.


recently ?


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What ever happened to that town owned land (road/right of way) that he has cars on?
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