Quoted from 487

Its a police issue.  If your neighbor has his son's band playing until 2:00am you call the police? If your neighbor runs a dairy farm and the milking machines run every morning 4:00am you call the police?  If your neighbor mows his lawn every Tuesday after your infant son goes to sleep you call the police?  If the train shakes your house the same time every night you call the police?

People, this is an industrial zoned part of town, dump trucks, heavy equipment, air wrenches, pallet grinders, trains, planes and automobiles.  Non-issue MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!

couldn't disagree......just a bunch of Rednecks again.......

Quoted Text

ROTTERDAM
Town official to direct probe of illegal racetrack allegations
BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    Deputy Supervisor Robert Godlewski will meet with the town code enforcer and public works director to give them “direction” to finally address complaints about an illegal racetrack operating on Marc Della Villa’s Westside Avenue property.
    Godlewski agreed to meet with the two Rotterdam offi cials after Town Board members watched a video taken by a resident of the Wedgewood Heights neighborhood earlier this year and showing the off-road motorcycles tearing around the property. He said code enforcer Mickey Maher inspected the property recently and found none of the activity that the residents have alleged.
    Godlewski said he then asked Maher to return to the site during the weekend, when there is a greater likelihood of the off-road riders using the property. He said the code enforcer wanted overtime to inspect the property during offhours, so Public Works director Michael Griesemer agreed to inspect the property on his own time over the weekend.
    But Godlewski’s narrative didn’t sit well with several other board members during the board’s agenda meeting Monday. Gerard Parisi questioned why it had taken more than eight months for code enforcement to investigate the complaints.
    “If these two individuals can’t get the job done in eight months, then they should be dismissed,” he said during the meeting.
    Board member Nicola DiLeva was equally frustrated by the lack of action by code enforcement and said it bordered on insubordination. She said she recently stopped by the neighborhood during a weekday evening and was appalled by the level of noise coming from Della Villa’s property.
    “I was out there for 15 minutes and I had a headache,” she said.
    Enacted in 1963, the local law classifies a racetrack as any area where motorized vehicles are used in contests or demonstrations of skill for the entertainment of the public or the gratification of the contestants. The code stipulates that such racetracks require a permit and even lays out a schedule of penalties for any property owner operating one illegally.
    Parisi has urged code enforcement to officially determine whether the property can be classifi ed as a racetrack so that the residents can then have a legal recourse if they’re unsatisfied with the decision. Were code enforcement to make a determination, the residents or Della Villa would then have an opportunity to challenge it with the town’s Zoning Board of Appeals. The ZBA decision could also be appealed through an article 78 proceeding in state Supreme Court.
    Some Wedgewood Heights residents have questioned the relationship between Della Villa and Supervisor Frank Del Gallo. Others have suspected the property owner of having a sympathetic ear at public works. .................>>>>.................>>>>.........................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01100&AppName=1

Quoted from thisisawesome

Here is one reason that MG doesn't do anything about it....his personal truck has been seen there because his kid rides his ATV there all the time.....if the noise bothers call the Pd...all those dirtbikes and atv's need to be registered and insured unless delavilla owns them all! Can't ride them anyplace unless they are reg and ins. Accept if they are yours and on your property according to the vehicle and traffic law.

              So now we know why there has been no enforcement by DPW.  Maher works for MG, and they're all running cover for the race track.  The Town Board is really getting frustrated over this nonsense.  Maybe heads will roll . . . . .

Quoted from AVON

              So now we know why there has been no enforcement by DPW.  Maher works for MG, and they're all running cover for the race track.  The Town Board is really getting frustrated over this nonsense.  Maybe heads will roll . . . . .

Who is the SUPERVISOR of rotterdam?? Who is Mahers boss? Who is MG's boss? Where is the leadership from this town board??? This should not even be an issue!! It clearly should have been handled 'correctly' months ago by the SUPERVIOR and under his LEADERSHIP!!! All the supervisor had to do was ENFORCE THE CODES already put in place.

Just read and execute!! Simple!

Quoted from AVON

              So now we know why there has been no enforcement by DPW.  Maher works for MG, and they're all running cover for the race track.  The Town Board is really getting frustrated over this nonsense.  Maybe heads will roll . . . . .

It also explains why, according to Bob Godlewski in yesterday's agenda meeting, Griesemer reportedly claims to have never seen
any racing on that property during BUSINESS hours...but refuses to inspect the site after hours or weekends without overtime
pay...and then tried to prevent it by a convenient argument of fiscal responsibility in resisting the overtime. That is when DiLeva
told him to tell Griesemer that she would go with him at 4:00 in the afternoon and to arrange it with Griesemer.

Quoted from bumblethru

Who is the SUPERVISOR of rotterdam?? Who is Mahers boss? Who is MG's boss? Where is the leadership from this town board??? This should not even be an issue!! It clearly should have been handled 'correctly' months ago by the SUPERVIOR and under his LEADERSHIP!!! All the supervisor had to do was ENFORCE THE CODES already put in place.
Just read and execute!! Simple!

The same could be said for the previous administration -- that did nothing about the issue. But
pointing fingers backwards in time won't solve today's problem.

HOWEVER -- in the interest of resolving the issue -- how do we move forward?  
First, several videos were shown at the Agenda meeting -- of persons riding on the "alleged"
racetrack with spectators watching  AND large equipment being used to move earth and build up
a ramp or jump .....   apparently the video is NOT admissable as proof that the property is a
racetrack  (at least that is what the town lawyers say .. and I am not a lawyer .. maybe there are
lawyers who post here who could shed a different opinion)
Second,  the building inspector has to actually witness the riding around on the "alleged" racetrack
and the spectators watching it  .. to write up a complaint  -- the question is how to get the building
inspector to come to the sight when these activities are going on .. or should I say .. make him go out to the sight when the activities are going on  ???
Third, apparently the Zoning Board of Appeals has the authority to override the building inspectors
opinion -- again .. the residents might want to investigate how they go about getting the Zoning
Board of Appeals to take action.
Fourth, as I read the town ordinance regulating racetracks and noise ordinances.. there is a section that refers to engines/exhaust systems being modified in such a way as to make more noise  -- I am not a mechanic -- but if  any of the vechicles have been so modifed ... that would provide
further evidence of violations having occurred.

Finally, I do know that in the early 1970's when my older brother and his friends were told to stop
racing their dirt bikes because racetracks were prohibited without a permit .. the racetrack was way
less obvious than what exists by Westside Ave.     It was a "circle 8" of dirt trails  on a sid lot facing
woods and the railroad tracks -- and I don't remember there being more than 3 bikes at any time.
They were told to stop and my grandmother followed through by making sure they never road their
dirt bikes there again ...  as simple as that .. they were told it was illegal and they complied.

This is no different than when the last administration wouldn't enforce a no burning law on the books when there were large piles of brush being burned in Masullo Estates. There were politics involved in that situation too.

Quoted from CICERO

Peeps must of forgot what name he was logged in under.

I forgot the comma as in Get my point, peeps?  As in my peeps. the peeps, your peeps.  HaHaHaHa

Quoted from bumblethru

Who is the SUPERVISOR of rotterdam?? Who is Mahers boss? Who is MG's boss? Where is the leadership from this town board??? This should not even be an issue!! It clearly should have been handled 'correctly' months ago by the SUPERVIOR and under his LEADERSHIP!!! All the supervisor had to do was ENFORCE THE CODES already put in place.

Just read and execute!! Simple!

note the bold

The inspector has to do his job in order that the code be enforced.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The inspector has to do his job in order that the code be enforced.

And if he doesn't, he should be fired.  We could get that answer tonight.

Things like this are what neither administration has dealt with.....I dont mean the 'track' itself...but a lack of vision.....if the track is left to stay...we
might as well turn into a dusty redneck flea bitten left over of the city and the rot that is eroding this town......

future vision....not just a god damn pillow fluff with facades and flowers.......

godlewski's great plan

parade the poor, good, clean cut, drug free adults in front of the town board and press -
andy brick style  aka "A Brick Parade"

tell the young adults the towns not so secret plan


Godlewski - "the building inspectors will visit once a day at a random time"

tippy- "young adults, if you see an town employee or vehicle high tail it out so it cant be declared a racetrack"

godlewski -"we will do this for 30 days and I have instructed DPW staff to work as required to figure out if it is a track, also the RPD will step up patrols in the area"

i find it funny that a police officer can testify in court they saw something and that it is what it is and a judge can send a person away for life based on a police officers eyes

but

"in rotterdam it is what it ain't"

Quoted from TippyCanoe

godlewski's great plan

parade the poor, good, clean cut, drug free adults in front of the town board and press -
andy brick style  aka "A Brick Parade"

tell the young adults the towns not so secret plan

There is no substance to your allegation that Mr. Godlewski planned the presence of those young people
at the town board meeting  and there is no "secret plan".

So, what happens when the track is shut down for the time that it was announced that they will be checking?  They close it down and open it up the day after the town stops checking?  Real nice.  That would be like the cops announcing when and where they would be having seat belt checks, the actual hours, so people make sure they avoid the area for the time period.  Just tell them when you're going back on vacation and won't be checking again and they'll be back at the track again.