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Forcibly taking money from a person with a few other young men apparently? Nice extra curricular sport. Maybe Dad needs to spend more time with the boy instead of running butt-kiss letters for Suzy Savage and Chrissy Gardner. each time he takes time to ghost sign a letter like that while down at his job at the Housing Authority, he is spending less time making sure his son doesn't turn out to be a lowlife common criminal. Maybe there is still a chance for him to straighten himself out, but his parents seemed to be engaged up to their red berets in ultra-left wing politics and destroying capitalism (except for cronies of SS) instead of child rearing.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Texting law, and others, need some real teeth

    There have been a number of letters recently concerning the law against texting while driving.
    The preponderance holds the view that it is an unenforceable law. That is a load of baloney! All laws can be enforced if the penalty for a violation is severe enough to make self-policing the enforcement tool. Politicians pass legislation for image, not for effectiveness. Laws are written with built-in excuses for all the ways in which an attorney can get you off, and not to eliminate or prevent undesirable behavior. Most people excuse their own unlawful behavior, believing that "everybody does it." Everybody does not!
    Many laws have penalties that may have been severe in 1850, when $10 was a month's wage, but that same penalty will not deter anyone today. Want to stop texting and cellphone use while driving? Call it reckless disregard for the safety of others. If your phone records show that you were using your cellphone within five minutes of being stopped, then the assumption is that it occurred while you were driving — and the penalty is one month's gross earnings based on last year's tax returns or current compensation, whichever is higher. Second time means confiscation of your vehicle and double the fine. If you are in an accident, you are charged with attempted murder. If someone is killed, it will be first-degree murder. If it is a minor, the same financial penalties will apply to the parent or responsible guardian. Do the same with DWI.
    These are deliberate actions! These are not accidents that happen to you. They are accidents that you cause or fail to avoid because of intentional distraction or impairment.
    Let's have an end to the sorry excuse, "I didn't mean that to happen." The pertinent question is: "What did you do to ensure that it did not happen?" Did you call a cab to take your drunken body home? Did you pull off the highway to make or take your extremely important call?
    We live in a culture that provides more excuses than there are snowfl akes. How many times have you heard, or perhaps said, in defense of someone, "He didn't mean that. He was drunk!" Yes, he did mean it, and yes, he was drunk. But he does not deserve to be excused for poor behavior within his control. You don't get drunk by accident!
    White kids committing crimes often get suspended sentences and have their records sealed. That's like no penalty at all. I know people whose children were not even grounded after committing serious crimes. Publish pictures of juveniles and identify their parents. Public humiliation may be undesirable, but it is not cruel nor should it be unusual. Let juveniles pay for being stupid. Juvenile criminals know their behavior is wrong: Stop excusing them and their parents. Identification will result in better supervision.
    Every law that fosters an attitude of "I'll pay the fine" simply leads to a society that picks and chooses which laws, if any, are to be obeyed. Crime can be lessened by passing tough laws that do not contain built-in excuses and which carry penalties applicable to today's culture. Punishment should not only fit the crime, it should act as a serious deterrent.
    One excuse for not having severe penalties is, "He's not really a criminal." No penalty, including death, is a consideration for the true criminal. Penalties for violating laws should be sufficient to ensure that they are seriously considered when the non-criminal is contemplating his behavior.

    FRANK ELFLAND
    Charlton

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  We live in a culture that provides more excuses than there are snowflakes.


Perfect!!!!
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Politicians pass legislation for image, not for effectiveness.

Perfect!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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So much about that letter was perfect.  Think about it, what is politics, campaigning, and being elected all about?  It's a popularity contest.  Myself included.  I spewed all the rhetoric, I never made any promises, but I told people I was the best candidate because.......and I went into all kinds of reasons.  Five years after being elected Supervisor a couple of times I realize none of those reasons could have prepared me for the undertaking.
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Every law that fosters an attitude of "I'll pay the fine" simply leads to a society that picks and chooses which laws, if any, are to be obeyed.


I guess Ms.Savage has enough money to buy her way out of a ticket etc....the other folk dont either dont have the $$ or take a cab......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Drivers warned
against phone use

    SCHENECTADY — Law enforcement agencies will be cracking down this month and in March on drivers using cellphones while driving in Schenectady County, according to the Schenectady County Traffic Safety Board.
    Police last year issued 750 citations to people who used their cellphones while driving during two campaigns, the board said.
    State law prohibits the use of a hand-held cellphone to engage in a call while driving. Violators face fines up to $100 and a mandatory surcharge of $50.
    In March, texting on a cellphone while driving becomes a crime in the county. Violators are subject to a $150 fine per offense.
    The Schenectady County Legislature passed the ban two months ago. Chairwoman Susan Savage, D-Niskayuna, sponsored it.
    “This is an important public safety issue,” Savage said. “Research has shown the dangers of driver distractions so it is important that we have legislation that will prevent a deadly accident before it happens.”
    Other counties with the ban are Westchester, Suffolk and Nassau.
    Alaska, California, Connecticut, Louisiana, Minnesota, New Jersey, Washington State and the District of Columbia have statewide bans. Twenty-three other states are considering similar legislation.
    — MICHAEL LAMENDOLA

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The exact law:

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New York State has passed a law that does not allow you to use a  hand-held mobile telephone while you drive. If you use a hand-held mobile telephone while you drive, except to call 911 or to contact medical, fire or police personnel about an emergency, you can receive a traffic ticket and pay a maximum fine of  $100 and mandatory surcharges of $60.



Unless they've snuck it in someplace that only the Gazette knows of, you can still use hands free Bluetooth headsets/receivers to make/receive calls as a driver or passenger of a motor vehicle.

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Good find MT. As usual the Gazetto is wrong. Who's fact checking over there?

    Take this warning very seriously. The main place to hang up is on 890-right off the Thruway in Rotterdam. The Rotterdam Town Court needs larger quarters to prosecute all these phone offenders. Sue Savage was wrong, continues to be wrong and only interest is not public safety but taking more funds out of your pockets. Only in Schenectady County would this carpetbagger be elected and than made leader of anything.
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This is  only just something else to add to Suzie's resume. EVEN THOUGH it is hardly enforceable. Just put the thing on speaker and place it on the seat next to  you ......or stick the blue tooth in your ear and chat away. They won't know if your singing to a radio tune or just plain nuts and talking to yourself. Sorry to say this folks, but I think that we are all multi tasked enough to talk and drive at the same time. I REALLY DO! But only with the cell in speaker mode or using a blue tooth.

Text messaging on the other hand is a different story. But yet another law hardly enforceable!! If Suzie is looking for more revenues, she is barking up the wrong tree! IMHO


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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It's probably only fine-able AFTER the accident......wait,,,,,,pause.....new technology on the way--of course.....digital car readers/scanners,,,no need for
the police....the car will shut off after the 4th letter is typed.......

someone needs a job and someone will fill it.....who is up to the task for the design?----oh, it's already designed....we need the
assemblers to be retrained for their 'new' jobs.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Texting-while-driving ban nears
Schenectady County law starts Sunday, Albany County weighs action


By CAROL DeMARE, Staff writer
First published in print: Wednesday, February 25, 2009

ALBANY — A ban on text messaging while driving is just days away from taking effect in Schenectady County, and a similar proposal to outlaw messaging and e-mailing behind the wheel in Albany County is getting closer to reality.
     
Signs will go up on Schenectady County highways this weekend to alert motorists they will be stopped and ticketed if caught sending or receiving a text message while driving, Schenectady County Legislature Chairman Susan Savage said.

The law takes effect Sunday. The penalty: $150 per violation.

Savage, a Democrat, pointed to fatalities in New York and around the country attributed to texting. The Schenectady County law is intended to raise awareness "so people think twice before texting and driving," she said.

Savage introduced the law in October, and it passed a month later. "We left enough time for law enforcement and the public to know how the law will change," she said. Reminders were included in county paychecks as well as articles in high school and college newspapers, she said.

Albany County is about five months away from the same type of enforcement. A public hearing on a proposed local law, introduced last summer by lawmaker Christopher Higgins, will be set for March 24 by the County Legislature at its March 9 meeting. If it passes, it should be on the books in April and take effect Aug. 1, the Albany city Democrat said.

On Monday night, the legislature's Law Committee voted to send Higgins' law for a public hearing. It would ban drivers from using a wireless hand-set to read or send text messages while operating a vehicle on any street or highway in Albany county. Penalties for violating the law would range from zero to $150 per offense.

"This is another perfect example of where the county has to close the loophole in the state law," Higgins said. The state enacted a cell phone law banning talking and driving, but state lawmakers "didn't realize back then that cell phones would evolve as to where they are little computers and people can text, e-mail and instant message."

The state law banning hand-held cell phones while driving took effect Nov. 1, 2001.

Last year, the state Senate passed a bill, sponsored by Sen. Carl Marcellino, R-Syosset, prohibiting drivers from sending text messages while driving. The Assembly didn't act on it.

"Bringing the cell phone law into the 21st century by prohibiting texting and e-mailing while driving is a no-brainer," Higgins said. "While it was not a common practice when the cell phone law was first passed, text messaging has become prolific with over 300,000 texts being sent per minute."

He cited the American Automobile Association that found that activity that takes a driver's attention off the road for more than two seconds can double the risk of a crash.

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More useless. unenforceable legislation. Savage Stylin! Had enough -YET? Bravo to only Joe Suhrada and Jim Buhrmaster for opposing this idiotic law. This is sexism and ageism because teenage girls text. She will use this to vault into Tedisco's Assembly seat-LOL!

  Like Lumpy Kosiur would use the pedophile relocation law?  These Krats don't get it-once you're in this horrible County Legislature-that's it. You're finished politically. No one outside this County will ever vote for you. And those that do in County should seek professional help.
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I met this girl the other day. We were talking about the new text message law. She said that she doesn't use her cell phone to text with. She has her wireless lap top next to her in her car and so she drives with her left hand and types and reads emails with her right.  
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