Yeah...Like those hundreds of people of Richmond County Georgia that "complied" and lost their licenses and charged with DUI because the breathalyzer was falsified by one of those respectable people that wear a costume for a living. Those are good compliant America's, doing what honest people do. Obey the authorities keeping everybody safe.
WAH WAH WAH...all you know how to do. You get bad apples in EVERY WALK OF LIFE! That doesn't mean all the apples are bad!
As for Breathalyzer/blood test...I wasn't there and don't know. But I believe there is no blood test in the field, so that would have happened at the station. Don't know fi the egg came before the chicken either...so why don't you enlighten us with your infinite wisdom!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
As for Breathalyzer/blood test...I wasn't there and don't know. But I believe there is no blood test in the field, so that would have happened at the station.
If you have nothing to hide, then you are fine with giving the police your blood and testing it, and testing positive for a controlled substance you are taking prescribed by your doctor? Or with you compliance with authority, do you tell the arresting officer your personal medical condition and medication you are taking in advanced?
If you have nothing to hide, then you are fine with giving the police your blood and testing it, and testing positive for a controlled substance you are taking prescribed by your doctor? Or with you compliance with authority, do you tell the arresting officer your personal medical condition and medication you are taking in advanced?
Blood test not a factor on field sobriety test...it's different issue and you know that! You love to twist things in your demented direction! Blood test NOT AN ISSUE in my statements on how I would respond! DUH!!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
No, I can't accept ignorance. 4th amendment is not compromised, because there is a specific law that provides for loss of license if refusal to take a Breathalyzer....believe it or not, it's to protect us all, including you! No rolling over at all...doing what an honest person does that has nothing to hide....difficult for your narrow mind to comprehend, I know. Cry about your rights being trampled all you want. For those of us that fully understand why laws are in place, agree with them or not, and have nothing to hide, it's no big deal to comply!
no one is mandated to pay income tax. there is no law that says so. however, there are consequences. same thing with probable cause. it's all about the loosie 'shoulds' and 'probables' ....... as humans the first thought in all of our heads is "I would never do that because I'm a better citizen/person." or "look what that scumbag did" blah blah blah....it's the superiority complex of our class system. We eat that sh!t with butter, reading reports of fellow humans failing and yet continue to defend politicians like sports teams.
No wonder religious war get fought.
Police do whatever the elected legislators, legislate against humanity. Just to soothe our consciences. Not unlike the hebrew task masters under the leadership of the Egyptians.
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Blood test not a factor on field sobriety test...it's different issue and you know that! You love to twist things in your demented direction! Blood test NOT AN ISSUE in my statements on how I would respond! DUH!!!!
I posted an article that shows in the citation that Paul's son refused a BLOOD TEST. Can a police officer demand your blood for a chemical test without a warrant? I didn't twist anything, I asked a question based on the news report.
I posted an article that shows in the citation that Paul's son refused a BLOOD TEST. Can a police officer demand your blood for a chemical test without a warrant? I didn't twist anything, I asked a question based on the news report.
No, your intent was to question which article was right...blood test or Breathalyzer.... and if you can read, I said I did not know what was correct and then provided my position should it be me, regarding a field sobriety test...nothing about blood test. So go ahead, shift it again back to your agenda...which is what...blood test or Breathalizer?????????
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
No, your intent was to question which article was right...blood test or Breathalyzer.... and if you can read, I said I did not know what was correct and then provided my position should it be me, regarding a field sobriety test...nothing about blood test. So go ahead, shift it again back to your agenda...which is what...blood test or Breathalizer?????????
Let's just take the conflicting news reports separately. Since a police officer can request a blood test as evidence for a DUI charge, do you favor of automatic suspension for refusing to give an warrantless blood sample?
If you refuse a warrantless breathalyzer, you automatically lose your license. Do you agree?
If you refuse a warrantless blood test, you automatically lose your license. Do you agree?
Let's just take the conflicting news reports separately. Since a police officer can request a blood test as evidence for a DUI charge, do you favor of automatic suspension for refusing to give an warrantless blood sample?
If you refuse a warrantless breathalyzer, you automatically lose your license. Do you agree?
If you refuse a warrantless blood test, you automatically lose your license. Do you agree?
Cissy is campaigning for his RIGHTS!!! (His "right" to kill someone while drunk driving unimpeded!)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Let's just take the conflicting news reports separately. Since a police officer can request a blood test as evidence for a DUI charge, do you favor of automatic suspension for refusing to give an warrantless blood sample?
If you refuse a warrantless breathalyzer, you automatically lose your license. Do you agree?
If you refuse a warrantless blood test, you automatically lose your license. Do you agree?
the law is written by our elected and we all communally chant "thank goodness THEY did something to prevent my fear from coming true". I guess that's why we elect legislators now....not for the sake of physical protection but more of an emotional protection. NYS has a privilege to drive. which infers agreement with ANYTHING the legislators/insurance companies/police decide is best to control the masses and extort $$$$$$, at any given time, with ease. along with creating a sh!t load of lawyers who we then go back to electing to make the laws that chain us to each other.
controlled chaos
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Let's just take the conflicting news reports separately. Since a police officer can request a blood test as evidence for a DUI charge, do you favor of automatic suspension for refusing to give an warrantless blood sample?
If you refuse a warrantless breathalyzer, you automatically lose your license. Do you agree?
If you refuse a warrantless blood test, you automatically lose your license. Do you agree?
Well let's first address your intent to make this a warrant/warrantless issue....it's not! The law identifies conditions for both cases, so it is not a warrant issue, except to you because you want to spin it there as a violation of your rights!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
it just don't matter anymore! ALL of these dimwit politicians campaign on FEAR!!!!! it's the friggin' story of chicken little AGAIN!!!
"OMG....the economy's gonna collapse, the war on terror, the war on drugs, the war on women, the war on blacks, the war on gays, the war on eating fat, the war on eating sugar, the war on too much soda, the war on jews/Israel, the war on Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, the war on American vets, the war on Christians, the 1%, the 99%, the war on healthcare".........blah blah blah blah blah......THE FRIGGIN' SKY IS FALLING!!!
I wouldn't vote for ANY of these idiots!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Well let's first address your intent to make this a warrant/warrantless issue....it's not! The law identifies conditions for both cases, so it is not a warrant issue, except to you because you want to spin it there as a violation of your rights!
Yeah, implied consent IS a warrant/warrentless issue. A police officer(according to one report) requested a person's blood sample to collect as evidence. A judge was not presented the probable cause and did not issue a warrant to get the blood drawn.
Cissy is campaigning for his RIGHTS!!! (His "right" to kill someone while drunk driving unimpeded!)
You've already endorsed the open violation of the 4th and 5th Amendment. From the collection of phone records, to executing of citizens overseas, to a secret presidential kill list. Suspending a license and ability to travel freely for non compliance of a blood test is minor compared to the egregious violation you support in the name of "safety".
Yeah, implied consent IS a warrant/warrentless issue. A police officer(according to one report) requested a person's blood sample to collect as evidence. A judge was not presented the probable cause and did not issue a warrant to get the blood drawn.
Warrant not required...told you that already. Show me otherwise. I am not aware that a warrant is required under these conditions, so please provide information to validate the need for a warrant.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
You've already endorsed the open violation of the 4th and 5th Amendment. From the collection of phone records, to executing of citizens overseas, to a secret presidential kill list. Suspending a license and ability to travel freely for non compliance of a blood test is minor compared to the egregious violation you support in the name of "safety".
So, Cicero. Are you against Drunk Driving Laws? Should a citizen be able to drive drunk with impunity? Is a breathalyzer a reasonable condition when, after an accident, a driver appears to be drunk? What should be the penalty for a drunk driver who refuses a breathalyzer or blood test? Or should there be none?
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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