Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Rotterdam jct flood
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Inside Rotterdam  ›  Rotterdam jct flood Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 27 Guests

Rotterdam jct flood  This thread currently has 24,162 views. |
16 Pages « ... 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 » Recommend Thread
senders
October 2, 2011, 1:27pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
because Tonko and the rest have suits to buy.....seeeeeeeee how shiny he is? hahahahahahahaha


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 165 - 230
MobileTerminal
October 2, 2011, 9:42pm Report to Moderator
Guest User
Did anyone go to the fundraiser at Carm's (Scotia) for the Junction today?

I wasn't able to be there, but heard it was very good, just not well attended.  Ziti and Meatball dinner, they've got really good sauce.
Logged
E-mail Reply: 166 - 230
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
October 2, 2011, 11:31pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
I see that Anthony's in Rotterdam Junction advertised in the Daily Gazette and is now open -- hope to get up there sometime in the near future.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 167 - 230
GravelGertie
October 3, 2011, 3:38pm Report to Moderator
Guest User
I would recommend the Chicken Parmigiana.........Anthony and his family are a fine group and deserve support -- I am sure he would even serve Naybobs if they were hungry
Logged
E-mail Reply: 168 - 230
RightOn15
October 3, 2011, 5:27pm Report to Moderator
Full Member
Posts
254
Reputation
0.00%
Reputation Score
+0 / -2
Time Online
3 days 13 hours 40 minutes
Those are the fundraisers that are on the up and up.......too bad about the ruse at the Center....
Logged
Private Message Reply: 169 - 230
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
October 3, 2011, 5:56pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
I'll steer clear of the parmigiana -- chicken or otherwise -- but could go for some pasta with a pesto sauce.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 170 - 230
GrahamBonnet
October 3, 2011, 7:30pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
9,643
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+16 / -8
Time Online
131 days 7 hours 47 minutes
What a mild disagreement with your other half. You can obviously share.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Logged
Private Message Reply: 171 - 230
Molly
October 4, 2011, 1:41pm Report to Moderator
Jr. Member
Posts
84
Reputation
100.00%
Reputation Score
+1 / -0
Time Online
103 days 22 hours 21 minutes
Quoted from GrahamBonnet
What a mild disagreement with your other half. You can obviously share.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 172 - 230
rampage
October 6, 2011, 3:28pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
1,773
Reputation
70.00%
Reputation Score
+7 / -3
Time Online
61 days 1 hours 26 minutes
Tonko votes against funding for Rotterdam Junction recovery (because it didn't give enough) before writing a bill (giving them much less than the previous bill) to "help" them.

http://tonko.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=29&parentid=7&sectiontree=7%2C29&itemid=618

Quoted Text
TONKO, HINCHEY, OWENS: REPUBLICAN DISASTER AID BILL IS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THOSE DEVASTATED BY FLOODING
09/21/11

WASHINGTON, D.C.  – Congressman Paul Tonko, Congressman Maurice Hinchey and Congressman Bill Owens tonight made the following statement after voting against a Continuing Resolution to fund government operations through November 18, 2011. Included is $3.65 billion in disaster relief funding, which is about half as much as the nearly $7 billion in disaster relief approved by the U.S. Senate. The House measure was defeated, 195-230.

“We voted against this continuing resolution because after three weeks of inaction by the Republican leadership, they have presented a package that falls far short of what is needed. It does not provide enough resources to help families rebuild their homes, and it blatantly excludes disaster relief programs at USDA that our farmers and rural communities need so desperately to recover. It kicks the can down the road to another, lingering fight.

“We are again calling on House leadership to schedule an immediate vote on legislation passed by the U.S. Senate that provides more resources for our families and farmers. And we will be working together on new legislation that would provide additional disaster funding for our farmers through the USDA.

“We will fight for every dollar of much-needed disaster relief funding we can get, but at the end of the day, this bill simply does not hold the breadth and depth of aid we require. It is a slap in the face to families, farmers, and small businesses in our area who have lost everything.”

"The House tonight defeated the continuing resolution that included a disaster relief package that fell far short of what is needed. Here is a statement I put together with my colleagues, Congressman Maurice Hinchey and Congressman Bill Owens." - Tonko's note on FB as to the above story.

Then, he approves, even though it's not enough...
http://tonko.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=29&parentid=7&sectiontree=7%2C29&itemid=621
Quoted Text
CONGRESSMAN TONKO: DISASTER AID APPROVED BY CONGRESS IS ONLY A DOWN PAYMENT ON WHAT IS NEEDED
10/04/11

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Congressman Paul Tonko released the following statement after voting in favor of a temporary spending bill that will fund the federal government through November 18th. The legislation, which includes $2.65 billion in emergency disaster funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 352-66.

“I voted for this bill because we need to get aid to our communities for the devastation caused by Hurricane Irene and Tropical Storm Lee, so we can continue to recover and rebuild. However, this is just the beginning of the fight to get funding for disaster victims --  I consider it a down payment because it does not do nearly enough for people who lost their homes, and it does nothing for farmers.

“It is a tragedy that it took Congress more than four weeks to deliver disaster aid because of some who wanted to play political games with people’s lives. It is unacceptable. I will continue to fight for every single dollar that is needed for people who have suffered from these devastating storms.”


Interesting that he voted against the first bill, then states that people are playing "political games with people's lives."  Notice that this bill that he voted for is $1 BILLION LESS than the bill that "didn't give enough."  He doesn't state anything about the fact that he voted against the first, but he does state on his FB page... "I voted today in favor of a short term funding bill that includes disaster funding for FEMA -- funding that falls far short of what is needed. " Falls short of what is needed, and less than what he voted against before.

Now, he's asking for about 1/10th of what the original bill was, stating on his FB page..."I've introduced a bill to provide more disaster relief funding for farmers who were hard hit by recent flooding throughout the Northeast."

http://tonko.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=29&parentid=7&sectiontree=7%2C29&itemid=622
Quoted Text
TONKO INTRODUCES BILL TO BOOST DISASTER RELIEF FOR FARMERS
10/05/11

WASHINGTON, D.C.  – Congressman Paul Tonko has introduced legislation in the House of Representatives that will provide nearly $340 million in disaster funding through the U.S. Department of Agriculture to assist farmers who suffered losses as a result of recent natural disasters. The legislation, called the Helping Devastated Farmers Act of 2011 (H.R. 3005), would make these funds available to farms through existing USDA programs for any event that is declared a major federal disaster

“Hurricane Irene and Tropical Storm Lee had a devastating effect on farmers in my district and throughout the northeast – farmers have lost cattle, crops, and buildings because of the historic flooding caused by these storms,” said Congressman Tonko. “This damage also threatens our rural economies, which are driven by our small farms. I urge House leadership to act quickly on my legislation so we can provide needed assistance to help our famers get back on their feet.”

The Helping Devastated Farmers Act of 2011 would allocate an additional $151 million to the Farm Service Agency’s Emergency Conservation Program, which provides emergency funding and technical assistance for farmers and ranchers to rehabilitate farmland damaged by natural disasters or threatened by severe drought. This includes removing debris, restoring fencing and conservation structures and repairing the land.

The legislation also provides an additional $187.5 million to the Emergency Watershed Protection Program, which is designed to help communities address imminent hazards to life and property caused by floods and other natural disasters.

“The time for political bickering is over, we need to work effectively in government to address those who have been hit the hardest by the recent storms,” added Congressman Tonko. “Farmers in my district and throughout the Northeast are asking for our help, and we need to act swiftly in response to these disasters.”

New York State has estimated that farms sustained more than $75 million dollars in damage due to flooding from Hurricane Irene and Tropical Storm Lee. That number is expected to increase, and officials continue to assess the damage.

The Helping Devastated Farmers Act of 2011 has been endorsed by the New York Farm Bureau.

“Our farmers, hit by the recent storms and flooding, have sustained losses that are unimaginable,” said New York Farm Bureau President Dean Norton.“This bill would provide the emergency conservation funding that our farmers need to help repair their farmland and get them back in the business of producing the high quality fruits, vegetables and dairy products that their communities and New York State depend on. The help and support of our representatives like Congressman Tonko has been invaluable and the family farmers of New York Farm Bureau are proud to support this bill.”

The Legislation, which has been referred to the House Appropriations and Budget Committees, has been co-sponsored by Congressman Maurice Hinchey (NY-22), Congresswoman Louise Slaughter (NY-28), Congressman William Owens (NY-23) and Congressman John Olver (MA-1).


“The time for political bickering is over, we need to work effectively in government to address those who have been hit the hardest by the recent storms,” added Congressman Tonko. “Farmers in my district and throughout the Northeast are asking for our help, and we need to act swiftly in response to these disasters.”

That's why he voted against the original bill... and we pay this guy to "help" us.

For the remarks that I have posted that are on Mr. Tonko's Facebook page, the address of that page is https://www.facebook.com/reppaultonko


Reignite Rotterdam
c/o MARY L. FAHY


Kidney Wheels, (800) 999-9697
http://www.HealthyKidneys.org


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 173 - 230
Admin
October 15, 2011, 7:04am Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
Quoted Text
Flooded Rotterdam Junction a fiscal disaster
Cleanup costs might top $300K

Saturday, October 15, 2011
By Justin Mason (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

ROTTERDAM — The impact of flooding in Rotterdam Junction on the town’s budget is staggering.
In the immediate aftermath of Tropical Storm Irene, town police burned through roughly an eighth of their annual overtime budget. The town’s Highway Department ate through roughly half its fund balance in order to clear debris and refuse from the flood-ravaged hamlet.
“It’s creating a huge budgetary issue for us,” Deputy Supervisor Robert Godlewski said this week.
One estimate puts the costs incurred from the cleanup in excess of $300,000. To put that in perspective, that alone would drive about a 3 percent tax increase in the 2012 budget.
On Wednesday, members of the Town Board approved a $51,000 expenditure to cover the cost incurred when Schenectady’s transfer station accepted tons of debris collected from Rotterdam Junction. The cost is the first of about $168,000 in waste-removal bills the town is anticipating, with another $40,000 expected in the coming months.
Employee overtime is expected to run the town about $70,000. That cost was split almost equally between the Highway Department and police.
“And that will probably go up some more,” said Comptroller Anthony Tangarone.
Town officials have even more dire predictions of the costs they’ll likely face in coming months. The hamlet is already contending with untold damage to its infrastructure, including cracked roads, plugged drains and water pipes that may rupture once the still-saturated ground freezes.
“It’s catching up to us now,” Rotterdam Junction Fire Chief Shawn Taylor said of the damage to the hamlet’s aging infrastructure. “It’s catching up to us big-time.”
Godlewski said there still is no clear indication of what federal funding will cover in terms of flooding costs.
Even worse, he’s not sure when that funding will come through, meaning the town could have to wait for more than a year for reimbursement.
“We have to pay our employees, and we have to pay those costs,” he said, “but we’re not going to see that money until 2013.”
Town officials are also unsure whether homes in Rotterdam Junction will be eligible for the state’s federally funded hazard mitigation grant program. The state will split the cost of buying certain disaster-prone properties with a municipality so they can be demolished and the land kept vacant.
Some residents in the worst-hit areas of Rotterdam Junction have urged the town to enter the program. About a dozen homes along Isabella Street and Scrafford Lane are uninhabitable and will likely be demolished, while 32 others were flooded up to the second floor.
“We’re in the perfect scenario for this,” said Dave Orologio, an Isabella Street resident whose property sustained flood damage twice in the past three years. “There are at least five houses that people are probably going to walk away from.”
But the parameters of the program will take up to three months to be defined by the state, leaving the town and Rotterdam Junction property owners wondering whether it will even be possible. Town Supervisor Frank Del Gallo said he believes Rotterdam would need to front the total cost of the program, then seek reimbursement.........................>>>>...................>>>....................http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2011/oct/15/1015_flooded/
Logged
Private Message Reply: 174 - 230
alias
October 15, 2011, 7:16am Report to Moderator
Guest User
Talked to a friend last night who grew up in the Junction...........Mother-in-law still lives there (well not anymore) house was destroyed, total loss.........got $27k from FEMA........not going back  
Logged
E-mail Reply: 175 - 230
MobileTerminal
October 15, 2011, 7:21am Report to Moderator
Guest User
$27k?????  Damnnnnnnn.....
Logged
E-mail Reply: 176 - 230
senders
October 15, 2011, 7:36am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
that's why the housing bubble was a JOKE.......we can't expect the government/neighbors/businesses/other countries to uphold the value we place on 'home'......how sad.....but I'm sure they are pioneering Americans and will
land on their feet, if they already haven't been standing strong.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 177 - 230
Patches
October 15, 2011, 8:11am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
4,839
Reputation
63.16%
Reputation Score
+12 / -7
Time Online
40 days 11 hours 18 minutes
Is one of the reasons that there is a question of money for Rotterdam Junction the fact that Gov Cuomo

did not declare it a disaster area. when all the other counties were included?   If that's the case, then where to
point the finger.

And if this is true, did the politics of this area play into the decision the Gov made/
Logged
Private Message Reply: 178 - 230
senders
October 15, 2011, 8:13am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
Quoted from Patches
Is one of the reasons that there is a question of money for Rotterdam Junction the fact that Gov Cuomo

did not declare it a disaster area. when all the other counties were included?   If that's the case, then where to
point the finger.

And if this is true, did the politics of this area play into the decision the Gov made/


OF COURSE.....it's a family fight.....and we're in the middle watching


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 179 - 230
16 Pages « ... 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 » Recommend Thread
|


Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread