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Government which is made up of many lawyers will never pass any law which will decrease their income or come clean on where their money is coming from. Remember the no-fault insurance law passed in NYS to save us money when there's a car accident and to cut down on lawsuits, how much money did it save you, my insurance went up right after the law was passed. In many instances lawyers are the problem and not the solution.
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Tommasone:  Town Assessor (appointed and answerable to Tommasone) gives Supervisor's brother huge tax break.

Plenty of other people got breaks too, right?  I think it's a stretch, unless an investigation proves otherwise.

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DellaVilla:  Tommasone pushes contract for computer services to the town to town board member (funny ~ it appears the new administration is continuing on the DV's services)

So is the new administration in trouble too? Or perhaps the contract was a benefit to the town?

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Mertz:  Appoints Joe Signore's kid to the police department ~ againts the Chief's recommendation ~ and kid goes to state police.

I agree, if it happened that way.  Is the Chief's recommendation some type of public document we can see to verify this?  If so, that is a clear unethical move!

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Signore:  Obviously worked with Mertz to have his kid get town police job.

Agreed, again.

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Parisi:  Ah ~ what you have all been waiting for ~ the Tommasone/Parisi issues will be made public soon and I suspect it will be very embarassing and troubling for Jerry.  If someone else wishes to go down this road ~ feel free.

Now Felipe...you were doing really well up until this point, and you are the ONLY one willing to state specifics.  But you can't just throw this out there!  Nothing is substantiated!  Why can't you go down the road?  
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Now Felipe...you were doing really well up until this point, and you are the ONLY one willing to state specifics.  But you can't just throw this out there!  Nothing is substantiated!  Why can't you go down the road?  

I read this as Felipe just stating that it was from the 'rumor mill' and if true, it was being investigated. So we will have to wait and see what, if anything, comes from it.



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Plenty else, in my opinion, was from the 'rumor mill' also.  Take the police issue...who could possibly be privy to that info on here, other than by rumor?  So spill it, Felipe! Give us the rumor version!
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Plenty else, in my opinion, was from the 'rumor mill' also.  Take the police issue...who could possibly be privy to that info on here, other than by rumor?  So spill it, Felipe! Give us the rumor version!


Come on TBV, this is rotterdam, where there are no secrets. Everybody knows a little something about everything. And everybody is somehow connected to someone else. This is no 'insider' info like you think.

Us residents aren't as uninformed as you may think.


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TBV ~ very good ~ interesting comments.

First ~ other people got breaks?  Godlewski will tell you that nobody got a break like that and it's too close to management.

Second ~ not sure they have had enough time to address it, but do you think the law counts for anything?

Third ~ the only example you were willing to point as a "clear unethical move"  ~ so you believe that absent the chief's recommendation any appointment would be "unethical"?

Lastly ~ all the examples up to this point have already been in the public domain and the subject of many debates ~ but this last one is yet to come and should only be done after the town board has examined the various allegations.
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Government which is made up of many lawyers will never pass any law which will decrease their income or come clean on where their money is coming from. Remember the no-fault insurance law passed in NYS to save us money when there's a car accident and to cut down on lawsuits, how much money did it save you, my insurance went up right after the law was passed. In many instances lawyers are the problem and not the solution.


Shadow ~ you're right ~ but none of the town board majority members are lawyers.
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Felipe, that's the only that seems unethical..however, we would need the facts.  As for the assessment reductions, I may have misspoke.  Plenty of people's assessments were "reduced."  That's what I was implying.  One (or more) of them was bound to be related to Tommasone!
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TBV ~ Here’s some facts (according to Signore) ~ Joe Jr. was the highest score on the civil service exam and highest GPA of those interviewed.  Chief found out Jr. had taken the state police exam and believed that Jr. would get an offer from the state police.  Signore said the chief had no inside knowledge of an offer, but believed the kid would get a state police job and would not be a long timer for the department.  Signore said his kid was the top candidate for the town police officer job and after getting the job graduated #1 from the academy.  In the end ~ Chief was right ~ kid was pulled up to the state police.  Un-ethical to hire the top candidate for the job?  Or unethical to hire a councilmember’s kid?  Or unethical to hire anyone without the chief’s approval?

As far as assessments ~ bound to be related to Tommasone or his brother is a little bit different.  Unfortunately anyone in Ego's circle is doomed from politics for a long time (Berrie, Fiorillo, Salamone brothers, etc...)  
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Thank heavens but the minority one is always going to be a problem not a solution.
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I guess I don't really know the answer to the Signore issue.  What do you think, Felipe?  Should the chief have hired him because he was the highest scorer? Or was he looking out for the best interest of the town.  That's a tough one.  

As far as anyone being doomed, I doubt Tommasone has the ability to 'doom' anyone.  He made his own mistakes, and that's what they were...his own.  Fiorillo would be a good candidate in the future.  Barrie is a Mertz, as far as I'm concerned (by the way, Mertz in the sense that she cries over spilled milk, not that she's a conservative which I find hard to believe that she is) and a Salomone is on the school board.  His record should speak for him, not Tommasone's.  Then again, our school taxes keep going up!!!!
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TBV ~ Here’s some facts (according to Signore) ~ Joe Jr. was the highest score on the civil service exam and highest GPA of those interviewed.  Chief found out Jr. had taken the state police exam and believed that Jr. would get an offer from the state police.  Signore said the chief had no inside knowledge of an offer, but believed the kid would get a state police job and would not be a long timer for the department.  Signore said his kid was the top candidate for the town police officer job and after getting the job graduated #1 from the academy.  In the end ~ Chief was right ~ kid was pulled up to the state police.  Un-ethical to hire the top candidate for the job?  Or unethical to hire a councilmember’s kid?  Or unethical to hire anyone without the chief’s approval?


I honestly don't see the issue of hiring joe jr to the rpd. He scored #1. And perhaps he did take the state police test. Was that an 'absolute' that he would be hired by the state police? I don't think anyone had or has a crystal ball to predict that outcome or the time table.

So the kid got a job with the rpd and then left to go to the state police. Big deal! It happens in the private sector ALL the time. Was he a good rotterdam cop? Did he 'abuse' his position?

There apparently are bigger fish to fry with the rpd than joe jr's short employment.....dontcha thinK?


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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That's why we pay the Chief so much...to make the 'tough' decisions!  
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I guess I don't really know the answer to the Signore issue.  What do you think, Felipe?  Should the chief have hired him because he was the highest scorer? Or was he looking out for the best interest of the town.  That's a tough one.  

As far as anyone being doomed, I doubt Tommasone has the ability to 'doom' anyone.  He made his own mistakes, and that's what they were...his own.  Fiorillo would be a good candidate in the future.  Barrie is a Mertz, as far as I'm concerned (by the way, Mertz in the sense that she cries over spilled milk, not that she's a conservative which I find hard to believe that she is) and a Salomone is on the school board.  His record should speak for him, not Tommasone's.  Then again, our school taxes keep going up!!!!


TBV ~ I don't think the police issue was unethical ~ but I think it gave the taxpayers the wrong impression.

Doomed ~ no, Tommasone isn't dooming anyone ~ but certain people are presumed to be "his" people and will have little or no chance of getting away from his legacy.  Fiorillo should be a good candidate ~ but it was Steve who brought her in.  Barrie was brought in by Steve and certainly appears not to be a conservative.  Not sure I agree with either reference to Barrie or Mertz crying over spilled milk ~ maybe you can expound on that for us.  Salomone on the school board is a working families party member and would never get any conservative backing.  Not to mention he's Steves son-in-law or something there about.  The other Salamone is perceived as a Buchanan/Tommasone puppet and was completely rejected by the executive committee to fill the vacancy (which Jerry decided to take).  From what I understand the executive committee didn't even take him serious in consideration of his brother being in the WFP.

All of these individuals have the same common thread ~ they followed Tommasone off the cliff.  
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TBV ~ I don't think the police issue was unethical ~ but I think it gave the taxpayers the wrong impression.

Doomed ~ no, Tommasone isn't dooming anyone ~ but certain people are presumed to be "his" people and will have little or no chance of getting away from his legacy.  Fiorillo should be a good candidate ~ but it was Steve who brought her in.  Barrie was brought in by Steve and certainly appears not to be a conservative.  Not sure I agree with either reference to Barrie or Mertz crying over spilled milk ~ maybe you can expound on that for us.  Salomone on the school board is a working families party member and would never get any conservative backing.  Not to mention he's Steves son-in-law or something there about.  The other Salamone is perceived as a Buchanan/Tommasone puppet and was completely rejected by the executive committee to fill the vacancy (which Jerry decided to take).  From what I understand the executive committee didn't even take him serious in consideration of his brother being in the WFP.

All of these individuals have the same common thread ~ they followed Tommasone off the cliff.  


You are kidding, right?  You make it sound like st was 'SATAN' himself. If he is, than so were all of the past administrations. And have you been paying the least bit of attention to the circus of an administration rotterdam has now????? It will certainly be interesting to see exactly 'who's' taxes get lowered with this circus in town.

You can say what you want about the last administration, and perhaps deservingly so on some issues....but I predict that this present 'three ring circus' administration will run circles around them. And I don't say that 'affectionately'!

I also predict that fdg will be gone in the short run and bob 'no change' will finish out in the long run.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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