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MobileTerminal
December 24, 2008, 9:35pm Report to Moderator
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Ya, and his candy is awful.

Can you believe I went to his store the other day, bought nearly $100 worth of the garbage - his mother came out to talk to me, but he wouldn't?  And to top it all off, I get home and I'm missing two things that the "pretty young girl" at the register was going to wrap and never put in my bag.

Last time I buy anything from that wanna-be Republican.


Ohh, I hope he doesn't sue me.

bwahahahha

/me waves

On a positive note, the multiple boxes of Peanut Butter Ribbon Candy were a HUGE hit! Wish I could get more tonight/tomorrow.
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MT, were you serious are were you just joshing here?  


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Quoted from bumblethru
MT, were you serious are were you just joshing here?  


Absolutely busting Joe S's stones ... candy is the best - when it all makes it to the bag

LOL

Seriously, I guess I forgot the /tic mark
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December 25, 2008, 10:04pm Report to Moderator
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I'm glad that one got cleared up, I was wondering the same thing as Bum.  I couldn't quite figure out where THAT animosity came from   Funny how things don't come across in writing quite the way you are thinking them as you type.  Perils of posting.
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Rene
December 25, 2008, 10:08pm Report to Moderator
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As for Kosiur's position being a case of discrimination?  I don't think it mattered what color other candidates were.....it was simply a case of giving Kosiur a job nothing else mattered.
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The president of Harvard could have applied and they would have told him he didn't have the education.  If Father Flanagan from Boys Town sent his resume, they would have told him his experience with teens was not adequate. If Ronald Reagan applied they would have said he lacked communication skills, and if Winston Churchill showed up they would have said his leadership abilities were in question. If General Patton wanted a career change they would have mocked his ability to discipline the kids. Conversely if it were Mother Theresa who was an applicant they would have said she lacked compassion and if Martin Luther King had come for the job, Gardner and Savage would have told him that he didn't understand the plight of minority youth. If Ghandi was aspiring for the gig, his anti-violence credentials would be belittled. If Robin Williams wanted it, the Democrats would have told him his sense of humor was too poor to handle the job and lastly- if Christ came down to ask for the position they would of said he had a poor attitude to work with children.

Right on Rene. The job was hand made for Kosiur, right down the part of the job description where the applicant had to have a snozz big enough to park Stratton's Jeep in.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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December 26, 2008, 6:18am Report to Moderator
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Where is the civil service employees union on this?  Kosiur's position was reportedly not posted for others to apply.  Is the union like the National Organization of Women (NOW) who will object to discrimation and unfair treatment to women only if it originates from "the right"?  Organizations like NOW, the ACLU, the NAACP, and employee unions appear to be more concerned about political activism to support the left than in the advancement of people who they are supposed to represent.
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Right to take offense, wrong to sue

    The Schenectady County Legislature’s creation of a cushy job for former colleague Ed Kosiur is the gift that keeps on costing.
    Brian Wright, head of the county’s Human Rights Commission, has sued the county for race, age and sex discrimination, claiming he was unfairly passed over for the $80,000-ayear job the Legislature whipped up for Kosiur — who was beaten by Republican George Amedore Jr. in a special election for Paul Tonko’s Assembly seat in August 2007 — as well as for a related job the Legislature created for the talented employee Kosiur bumped.
    Kosiur’s appointment to the non-Civil Service position had political patronage written all over it: The job wasn’t advertised and he didn’t formally apply for it until a month after he started working; it was basically just handed to him.
    That irritated the heck out of county Republicans and taxpayers from both parties, who knew Kosiur’s primary qualification for the job was his longstanding membership in the good ol’ Democratic boys’ club. (Never mind that the club was run by a woman, legislative Chair Susan Savage.)
    The appointment apparently didn’t sit too well with Wright, either, who did what minorities in his position often do when they and those they represent don’t get what they want: play the discrimination card. Sometimes they have a point, but not here. This was simply a matter of finding a job for a political insider.
    Yet strange as it may seem, Wright found an investigator from...........http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....amp;EntityId=Ar00901
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More hogwash from the Gazetto. Mr Wright, if he was wronged, has every right to sue. As does every County employee. As Bonnet posted, this is the only thing anyone seems to understand.

     We have learned many things; 1) County management is keeping enemy files under lock and key that they will not give to State investigators. 2)This County has no in house policy on discrimination according to the head of the Human Rights Commission. 3)Kosiur did not even apply for his job until a month after he started employment.

     This should trouble every resident of this County. Where is the CSEA on this? Where are "leaders" of the County Legislator? What did the County Manager know and when did she know it? Federal authorities must come in start a complete investigation of discrimination and hiring practices in Schenectady County.
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Yea, like the investigation they did on Metroplex and then bury the report so deep that no-one will ever be able to read it.
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  The appointment apparently didn’t sit too well with Wright, either, who did what minorities in his position often do when they and those they represent don’t get what they want: play the discrimination card.
This was a real 'low blow'.  We all knew this was a patronage job. We all knew it was created for Mr. Kosiur himself and no one else. Mr. W. had no other avenue to seek except 'discrimination'.

But let us be reminded here that Mr. W. is also not looking out for the taxpayers here. Cause he would have taken that patronage job in a heart beat if it was offered to him. He just appears to be politically disgruntled.

Ya see, everyone is standing in line for those taxpayer handouts be it social welfare, corporate welfare or political welfare. Mr. W's. motives are no more better or honorable than the rest of the bunch.


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Don't confuse State and Feds. We need a Federal Justice Department look see. Then files would be produced and questions answered. Mr Wright is no saint, of course he wants a promotion. So? That is not the issue. He has opened a can of worms.

     Finally the wall of silence has been cracked. A County with no in house discrimination policy. A County with enemies files under lock and key. A County that refuses to follow basic State civil service laws. And nobody cares! More attack the messenger which is the usual phony game. And the Gazetto played on.
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SCHENECTADY COUNTY
NAACP: Democrats discriminate
Chapter backs black man’s complaint against county

BY MICHAEL LAMENDOLA Gazette Reporter

    The local NAACP chapter on Friday said minorities in Schenectady County are frequently frozen out of jobs and told not to run for office by Democratic Party leaders. Its vice president said the chapter supports a black man’s job discrimination claim against Schenectady County.
    “There are plenty of minorities who have proper qualifications for positions and are never approached. The candidates are picked in back rooms,” said Fred Clark, vice president of the Schenectady chapter of National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
    Democrats control the City Council and Schenectady County Legislature, and with that control comes appointments to jobs. The party leadership also controls who is able to seek office through its screening process.
    The chairman of the county Democratic Committee, Brian Quail, denies it discriminates and said the party is inclusive.
    Brian Wright, 55, filed a complaint with the state Division of Human Rights on May 1, alleging discrimination because he was denied a raise and an opportunity to apply for two jobs in county government. He said he is better qualified for the jobs than the people who got them. The existence of the complaint became public recently.
    Wright is executive director of the Schenectady County Human Rights Commission and is the county’s only black department head. The state said Wright’s complaint has merit, and an administrative law judge will review it. No date has been set for the hearing.
    Clark said Wright’s situation mirrors the difficulty that qualified minorities have in obtaining elected office or advancing into jobs that pay well in government, or shows that party leaders often ignore qualified local candidates or recommendations of local minority leaders.
    “Our position is to support Brian because I have seen it, we have seen it. We have seen past incidences where minorities were overlooked for positions,” Clark said.
    Clark said the “closed door” selection of people means no one has a fair chance to get a position. “I am not just talking about minorities but of others who might be qualified,” he said.
    Clark said there should be open referendums for positions, such as the position of affirmative action director. The county hired Miriam Cajuste, a black woman, in July as affirmative action officer after the prior officer left to take a job with the state. The city spends $50,000 in Community Development Block Grant money to fund the position in a joint deal with the county. Cajuste was previously a fiscal analyst for the state Assembly.
    Clark said the perfect candidate would have been Alex Perryman, who retired from the state as an affirmative action officer. “No one from the Democratic Party approached him. They picked somebody we never even heard of,” he said.
    Perryman said he would have considered the job but was never asked. “It concerns me that people of color are not identified for positions,” he said.
    Perryman said he also experienced discrimination when he tried to run for office in the city a decade ago. He is currently vice president of the Mont Pleasant Democratic Committee.
    “When I tried to run for various offices, I was blackballed by higher-up officials in the party. They had three or four seats, and they did not want me to run a primary; they had selected their slate,” Perryman said.
    Quail, chairman of the county Democratic Committee, said the party does not discriminate. “The party obviously has as one of its primary goals the recruitment of minorities for elected and other positions,” he said. “That will continue to be a goal of mine as party chairman.”
    Quail said the record shows the ....................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....amp;EntityId=Ar00901





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Impossible. You see the real problem is that they need to be 1,000% certain the candidate will bow down and always say "yes" when told what to do. They don't have room for divergence of opinion anywhere.


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Brian Wright, head of the county’s Human Rights Commission, has sued the county for race, age and sex discrimination, claiming he was unfairly passed over for the $80,000-ayear job the Legislature whipped up for Kosiur — who was beaten by Republican George Amedore Jr. in a special election for Paul Tonko’s Assembly seat in August 2007 — as well as for a related job the Legislature created for the talented employee Kosiur bumped.


Chalk it up to me and not checking my facts before I post this, but wasn't the special election for Paul Tonko's Assembly seat (better worded as the Assembly seat vacated by Mr. Tonko...unless he still owns the chair...) was not in August 2007?  Seems to me (as someone who pays attention to little things like this) that the election was on July 31, 2007...probably just a small fact that could get mixed up by anyone who doesn't really care about the facts...(and don't forget to give Kosiur everything he "deserves" in his job, including the second "dash" in his "$80,000-ayear job."


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