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GOP in a swoon

It's no secret the Schenectady County Republican Party is struggling to beat the band.

Only 15 or so committee members showed up recently when county Chairman Tom Buchanan was re-elected to a two-year term. During the GOP glory era, more than 300 turned out for every County Committee meeting.

Neighboring Albany became legendary and continues to be a Democratic bastion. Schenectady was just as solid Republican for decades before the GOP collapse.

The current Schenectady GOP situation is so bad, the party has about 150 vacancies on the County Committee. Buchanan is working at repairing many years of neglect, but that's a large order.

On the upside, the GOP Octoberfest drew 110, compared with only 70 last year. "That's an increase of more than 50 percent -- how about reporting that?" Buchanan asked after the event.

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On the upside, the GOP Octoberfest drew 110, compared with only 70 last year. "That's an increase of more than 50 percent -- how about reporting that?" Buchanan asked after the event.

I bet that hurt for them to put in there.

The Republicans didn't seem to be struggling in Rotterdam in this election.

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GOP squabble averted
Marv Cermak

Schenectady County Legislature Republicans re-elected Bob Farley to serve as their minority leader, but the move wasn't a done deal from the start.
GOP insiders say County Chairman Tom Buchanan wanted to dump Farley, but other party regulars convinced him it was a bad plan.
They reminded the chairman that 30-year state Sen. Hugh Farley wouldn't be around forever. Because of the longtime name recognition, most politicians agree Bob Farley -- his son -- would be the strongest candidate the GOP could field to retain the critical Senate seat.
Further, it was learned that Buchanan offered the minority leader job to county Legislator Joe Suhrada, but he declined the promotion. Buchanan reportedly was upset over reports that Farley wanted to oust him as party chairman.
Farley denied going after the chairman and said he was unaware of the attempt to unseat him. "I do know that through the years, internal fighting has been the major reason our party has been failing," he said.

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Buchanan reportedly was upset over reports that Farley wanted to oust him as party chairman.

This should come as no surprise to Buchanan. Everybody I talk to wants Buchanan out. Most of them feel that he is the reason the party is doing so poorly. And as much as I think Joe Suhrada is a straight shooter, he has made some enemies along the way. I would like to know what Buchanan's motives were to offer the position to Joe, other than his vindictiveness for Farley's past comments. Did Bucahanan actually think Suhrada would be a better minority leader?

Who thinks Rotterdam should have a strip club in the industrial park????? anyone anyone, Bueler, Bueler????

It's not me. Watch the $$ and the greed of it.......

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Saving GOP club Tom Buchanan, busy putting together the pieces of the partially shattered Schenectady County Republican Party, will make an attempt to reactivate the county GOP club.
The club went on inactive status in December because of dwindling interest among a handful of remaining members. Buchanan, county chairman the last two years, hopes to hold a club 75th anniversary celebration in April.
"You can't let this tradition die," he said. He's starting the rejuvenation push at an open meeting 6:30 p.m. Wednesday at Scarborough's Restaurant in Rotterdam.
"It took 10 years to turn Rotterdam around. Now we have a 4-1 GOP Town Board majority," Buchanan said.
Republicans recaptured Glenville control, but lost all Niskayuna races last year. "We want to replicate Rotterdam success elsewhere," he said. "Politics is a lot of grunt work, not rocket science."

So, why do we need somone pretending to be a rocket scientist running the party?

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"We want to replicate Rotterdam success elsewhere," he said.

First, I believe that it wasn't Buchanan who got the reps in Rotterdam. I believe it was the candidates themselves.
Second, look who Tomasone was running against....Cooke. Now that was a hands down win for sure.
And third, I think that the reps do need a rocket scientist before they become extinct in this county.

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So, why do we need somone pretending to be a rocket scientist running the party?

It's the pinky ring.....and the---car......

I received the following email today. Anyone up to the challenge?

We are re-energizing the Schenectady County GOP Club, with a meeting tomorrow at 6:30pm at Scarboroughs Restaurant, in Hannaford Plaza, Altamont Ave, in Rotterdam.

We will be really changing the Club, and bringing in new people, with more activities. I hope you will consider joining us for this organizational meeting.

Regards,

Tom Buchanan, GOP Chairman

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I received the following email today. Anyone up to the challenge?

Gee Rene, I don't see any takers? :)
And who are the new people that they are bringing in? It must be by invitation only,huh?

I like the sicilian wings at Scarboroughs....

I'm just the messenger. I thought if they are trying to revamp the county club it should probably not be a secret. I don't know how or if it was advertised, I just got the email and sent it on to those who may be interested. I have no idea who the new people are, I don't know who the old people were. I suppose I will find out tonight. It's ok with me if there are no takers. I could really care less, I am a registered Republican and look forward to trying to make a difference is all. Everyone seems to be saying the Republicans in Schenectady County have fallen asleep, it is apparently time to wake up and I plan to give it a go. I guess it has to start somewhere or we could just keep hitting the snooze. I hear the wings are great.

I'll be there tonight, too. I wasn't really sure up until now, but I think I'll be able to make it. Anybody have an idea how long this is supposed to be or what's going to be there?

The wings at Scarboroughs are to die for. Actually all of their food on their menu is great. But the wings are some of the best in town.
And I do agree with you René. At least the reps are starting to wake up and will need support and input. I do hope it is productive and encouraging for all of our sakes.

Yesterday, I was informed of this evenings event, but thought it inappropriate for me to participate since I don't belong to the Republican party. I thought it to be an internal matter. However, I spoke with Art Brassard tonight after the meeting concluded, when RSVPing for the Lincoln Day Dinner/Fundraiser, and was told that the membership in the club will be open to those who are enrolled in other parties and who share "Republican values".

Considering the state of Schenectady County under the control of the Democratic party, I suggest that we all have an interest in strengthening the opposition party(ies). The residents can no longer tolerate the arrogant disregard that the Democratic politicians have for their constituents. The tax and spend policies of the majority party, the redistribution of public revenues to private individuals and businesses who are aligned politically with the Democratic party, and the creation of patronage jobs for their friends and peers are bankrupting the taxpaying residents of the county and lowering the standard of living. Crime is rampant and lawlessness is tolerated.

I will lend my voice and offer my hand to the effort to revive and strengthen the Republican party provided that it embraces the traditional conservative ideology.

Brad well said and I agree 100%.

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I will lend my voice and offer my hand to the effort to revive and strengthen the Republican party provided that it embraces the traditional conservative ideology.

Brad, I would do the same if and when the time should arise. It sounds like they are attempting to get their party in order. I hope that they can reach a point where they can step up to the plate and face the issues at hand and hopefully change the landscape of our present county majority.

Brad, Very well said. I left the meeting refreshed. I am optimistic that Mr. Fitzpatrick, the new club leader, will give his all. He had great ideas and will need an enormous amount of help to implement them The important thing everyone in the county has to remember is one person does not a club of any kind make. I see a lot of criticism and bashing of single individuals within the party. If that person has soooo much power then shame on us for allowing it. If that person is not effective then also shame on us for either not stepping up to the plate to cover their butt, or replacing him/her. It seems as though everyone wants to criticize but no one wants, or for what ever reason can't step up. The success of the club and the party will stem on getting the platform out there, drawing people in, and putting them to work. It is basically a networking thing. If we can find people interested, they know people, and those people know people. Next thing you know, you will have candidates for positions who are not only willing, but anxious to run. There are so many untapped people out there we are bound to find some. It is work, but it should also be fun too. A social event, somewhere for people to go and discuss their ideas and their ideals. To me it is a chance to build and be a part of the discovery of new people in the county to run for positions, both town wide and county. The more people in the club the more the committee will have to draw from for endorsements at election time. I would ask that everyone who reads this tries to attend atleast a couple of the meetings to see what will occur in the coming months.

Rene, it was refreshing to hear your candidness on last nights meeting. I think that for everyone that is seriously wanting to see change, this is the chance to make it happen. And to quote Brad:

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I will lend my voice and offer my hand to the effort to revive and strengthen the Republican party provided that it embraces the traditional conservative ideology.

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SCHENECTADY COUNTY
Political parties resume clubs
Young Democrats, GOP Club plan social activities
BY MICHAEL LAMENDOLA Gazette Reporter

    Schenectady County’s two main political parties are awakening long-dormant social clubs, hoping to recharge and expand their memberships.
    Republicans resurrected the Schenectady GOP Club on Wednesday, drawing approximately 40 people to an organizational meeting, most of them “fresh faces,” said Tom Buchanan, chairman of the Republican Committee.
    The Schenectady County Young Democrats will hold its first meeting Tuesday in more than four years. The meeting is set for 8 p.m. at the Ancient Order of Hibernians Hall.
    To Buchanan, the interest in the political process is refreshing. “There is too much apathy out there, so this is good,” he said.
    Buchanan said the GOP Club has an illustrious history, beginning 75 years ago. It served as a mechanism to recruit new members and help promote the party’s image in the community. Buchanan plans to continue these activities, holding monthly meetings as well as special events. The club plans to waive its annual dues to encourage people to join, he said.
    “We have got to put the pieces back together and rebuild the party. This is a necessary component of rebuilding the party,” Buchanan said.
    Republicans lost control of the Schenectady County Legislature to Democrats in 2003 after 37 years in power. Democrats dominate city politics to a point that Republicans could not mount a strong challenge for mayor and City Council and for county legislative seats last November. A county judge is Republican; all other countywide offices are held by Democrats.
    Republicans, however, remain strong in Rotterdam and the hill towns and are working to retake control of Glenville, which they long controlled but lost to Democrats several years ago.
    Buchanan said the club’s first special event is scheduled Tuesday at Scarborough’s Restaurant to watch live returns of the Republican presidential primary. “Republicans from across Schenectady are welcome to join us at our free event,” he said. “There will be plenty of good food and great political conversation.” Several state and local elected Republican officials are expected to attend, he said.
    Buchanan said anyone can attend a function, but only Republicans may join the club. “Independents are more than welcome to come,” he said, adding with a laugh that every effort will be made to get them to enroll as Republican.
DEMOCRATIC PLANS
    David Fronk, 24, is an organizer of the Young Democrats. He said he is starting the club to get more young people involved in the political process. “We are planning a series of social events to help people network, education events and efforts to get them involved in the election process,” he said. “By involving young people in campaigns and elections, we train a whole new generation of civic leaders.”
    The club can’t endorse candidates in primaries, Fronk said. “It is more about getting them informed.”
    The club is open to people ages 16 to 35; the age guidelines are set by the Young Democrats of America. Once the local club reaches 25 members, it can obtain a state charter. Approximately 10 people are involved in the club currently, but Fronk expects that number to increase. “The group joins the growing youth movement in politics,” he said.
    The youth vote in 2006 played a critical role in Democrats capturing Congress for the fi rst time in 12 years, Fronk said. “This year, the youth vote has more than doubled from 2004 Primary elections in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina,” he said.
    Fronk works as director of operations for the Schenectady County Legislature. Democrats hired him last June after he graduated from UAlbany with a degree in political science.

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David Fronk, 24, is an organizer of the Young Democrats.
Fronk works as director of operations for the Schenectady County Legislature. Democrats hired him last June after he graduated from UAlbany with a degree in political science.

Surprise, Surprise.

What responsibilities does the Director of Operations of the Schenectady County Legislature have?

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What responsibilities does the Director of Operations of the Schenectady County Legislature have?

Perhaps another 'created cushey Kosiur' postion?....Except much younger AND comes with an education.

Tours of the buildings and looking at documents???? ;D

Or the media/public filter.....

Might I respectfully suggest that those who have besmirched the Schenectady County Republican Party leadership and who want to see change in the party become engaged in the game rather than heckle the participants from the bleachers? Change is most likely to occur from within.

While disgruntled Republicans argue about party event venues and flat soda, the Democratic party is gaining strength and cementing one party control in Schenectady County. Though I am not a member of the Republican party, I urge you to find ways to repair the rift that exists between the factions of the party and mount some unified opposition to the oligarchy that rules Schenectady county.

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Might I respectfully suggest that those who have besmirched the Schenectady County Republican Party leadership and who want to see change in the party become engaged in the game rather than heckle the participants from the bleachers? Change is most likely to occur from within.

While disgruntled Republicans argue about party event venues and flat soda, the Democratic party is gaining strength and cementing one party control in Schenectady County. Though I am not a member of the Republican party, I urge you to find ways to repair the rift that exists between the factions of the party and mount some unified opposition to the oligarchy that rules Schenectady county.

Brad, That just really deserved a reprint!!!!!!!!!! I may even do it again in the future. If those who are besmirching attend the next meeting I hope they leave their grudges at the door. There isn't room for it in the meetings.

I am not a registered Republican either. I will try to attend a meeting and see and hear what there is.

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Back from the dead
There was mention here a week ago about an attempt to revive the Schenectady County Republican Club just months before its April 75th anniversary.
Because membership shrank to just several activists, the club was put on inactive status in December. It was back from the dead last week when 31 people came to a reorganizational meeting.
"The old club at it's height had 80 active members. My goal is 160 by summer's end," said Joshua Fitzpatrick, new club president.
He's communications director for Assembly Minority Leader Jim Tedisco. The Buffalo native moved to Rotterdam in '96.
He said the club mission is to help elect Republicans, who lost control of city and county government. "A priority goal will be taking back the County Legislature."

Well here we have our opportunity folks. If you are tired of the democratic dictatorship that has enveloped our entire county, then it is time to jump on the opposing parties bandwagon and make a difference. We should be hitting the ground running and do all we can to change this political system around.

Do I think it should be all reps running the show? NO! Nor do I think we should have all dems as it is now. This government was designed to be a 2 party system. Something this county hasn't seen in quite some time. I say vote in the reps and watch them very closely and keep their feet to the fire. Hold them accountable. Right now there is no objective point of view to be heard. And the ones that are (reps), they don't even get a chance to be heard.

Let's get some dems out and get some reps in. Then perhaps we can get rid of some of those political appointed positions that are clearly not needed!

Bumble,

I couldn't agree more with the exception that there may be room for a few good Conservative party candidates in local government.

Anyone going to the Lincoln Day Fundraiser this evening? If so, please look for me. Although not my party's
fundraiser, I support the Republican Party in its efforts to restore some balance to county and city government
and will be there with my contribution.

A little too busy to make it tonight, but there was a good turnout on Tuesday night at the Election Day get-together that they had (at Scarboroughs again.)

BTW, we HAVE to find a new place for the Republicans if we're going to sit around and watch returns. Can you imagine? REPUBLICANS sitting around on election night, watching CNN and C-SPAN??? It's Un-Ethical! LOL ;)

I can't make it....I have a Town Board agenda meeting. I am disappointed as I always enjoy this event.

There may be a very slight chance that I may be able to attend tonight. I won't know until the night unfolds.

And Brad you are right about a few good conservatives to fill some seats!! I think that I may know of one or two. ;)

Nice turnout at the Lincoln Day Dinner/Fundraiser last evening. I counted somewhere between 140 and 150 people including dignitaries, party chairs from several parties, elected officials, and supporters. The food was good, the band was great, and the conversation was filled with hope and anticipation.

Looking forward to attending the Conservative Party Fundraiser in May.

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Looking forward to attending the Conservative Party Fundraiser in May.

When, where and what for (or how much, I guess)?

Kevin,

I spoke briefly with Randy Pascarella and Bob Hamilton on Thursday night at the Republican party fundraiser.
I asked about the Conservative Party mixer.  The plans are being made.  The tentative date that was stated
is May 17th.  Location is to be determined.  Last year the event was held at Mallozzi's Restaurant.  I am hopeful
that they will change the venue this year.  Perhaps, we should recommend that it be held in Niskayuna or Duanesburg (at the Bears) as most of these events are have historically been held in Rotterdam or in Scotia/Glenville.

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Nice turnout at the Lincoln Day Dinner/Fundraiser last evening. I counted somewhere between 140 and 150 people including dignitaries, party chairs from several parties, elected officials, and supporters. The food was good, the band was great, and the conversation was filled with hope and anticipation.

Looking forward to attending the Conservative Party Fundraiser in May.

It's encouraging to hear that there was such a great turn out. There certainly seems to be a positive movement in the rep's party. It seems to be gaining momentum. A step in the right direction.

Yeah, maybe this party will pull them a little out of debt for the time being.

Anybody want to make a donation?

mmmmm....maybe.....who do you send a donation to?

No clue to be honest. I'm saving my donation for the Conservative Party.

This thread started back in Feb. I don't see the Republican party resurrecting ANYWHERE in the county. All we hear about in any media outlet is how the dems are doing so much. Sure, they control everything. But don't the reps think it's about time to get their name and face out there for some recognition? Our Rotterdam reps were in the news when they became involved in Hamburg Street. Then that went silent. Their names were in the news when Curry Road shopping plaza was an issue. Then that went silent. To the average slug of a resident in the entire county...we hear and see the dems out there almost daily but not the reps. They need to get involved and have the media there. Heck..even if they don't do a thing, it will benefit their political career. I mean look, it worked for Tonko! :)

And these dems keep getting re-elected over and over and over again. And not because they are doing such a great job. They keep getting re-elected because the 'sheeple' hear their names/voices over and over and over again.

Where are the voices of the Republicans who hold elected positions in the townships within Schenectady County?? I never see their names in the editorial pages of The Gazette. It's FREE! Where's Mertz, Signore, Tommasone, Parisi, Santabarbara? Why don't they weigh in on county issues so they can lay out their solutions and advance the Republican platfom? If there is a platform.

Susan Savage, Ray Gillen, and other Democrats have no problems writing letters to the editor, defending their decisions and advancing their platform. Joe Shurada is the only Republican voice you can hear taking on the county Democrats. The editorial pages should be flooded by county Republicans and Conservatives informing the people that there is an alternative to the current Democratic status quo.

Then again, maybe they're both the same, just carrying different flags.

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This thread started back in Feb. I don't see the Republican party resurrecting ANYWHERE in the county.

And you won't as long as Mr Buchanan is the flag bearer of the party. People are disgusted with him.

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Where are the voices of the Republicans who hold elected positions in the townships within Schenectady County??

They're trying to save their political, cumulative a$$es. They know if they speak up they'll be torn apart by the wolves just waiting to pounce. None of them are free from the skeletons in their closets. And to top it off, they're "lifetime" politicians - just waiting to collect that golden egg in a few years of service.

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... None of them are free from the skeletons in their closets. And to top it off, they're "lifetime" politicians - just waiting to collect that golden egg in a few years of service.

MT,

Not all of the elected Republicans are lifetime politicians.  At the county government, Angelo Santabarbara is
new to the County Legislature.

One issue is that the Republican sponsored legislation is never allowed to come to the floor to discuss, debate, and vote upon.  Further, the Daily Gazette appears to recite in their news story only what is prepared for them by the majority party and those on the Metroplex Board of Directors.  There is little investigative reporting, only promotion and cheerleading.  IMHO the Albany Times Union provides better coverage of the important stories that pertain to Schenectady County than does the hometown newspaper.

I agree with you that the other parties, Republican, Conservative, etc. need to assert their identities and offer a different vision for the future of Schenectady County.  To do so, however, requires a forum.

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MT,

Not all of the elected Republicans are lifetime politicians.  At the county government, Angelo Santabarbara is
new to the County Legislature.

One issue is that the Republican sponsored legislation is never allowed to come to the floor to discuss, debate, and vote upon.  Further, the Daily Gazette appears to recite in their news story only what is prepared for them by the majority party and those on the Metroplex Board of Directors.  There is little investigative reporting, only promotion and cheerleading.  IMHO the Albany Times Union provides better coverage of the important stories that pertain to Schenectady County than does the hometown newspaper.

I agree with you that the other parties, Republican, Conservative, etc. need to assert their identities and offer a different vision for the future of Schenectady County.  To do so, however, requires a forum.

Ergo, my jubilation here: http://www.rotterdamny.info/m-1210089292/

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MT,

Not all of the elected Republicans are lifetime politicians.  At the county government, Angelo Santabarbara is
new to the County Legislature.

One issue is that the Republican sponsored legislation is never allowed to come to the floor to discuss, debate, and vote upon.  Further, the Daily Gazette appears to recite in their news story only what is prepared for them by the majority party and those on the Metroplex Board of Directors.  There is little investigative reporting, only promotion and cheerleading.  IMHO the Albany Times Union provides better coverage of the important stories that pertain to Schenectady County than does the hometown newspaper.

I agree with you that the other parties, Republican, Conservative, etc. need to assert their identities and offer a different vision for the future of Schenectady County.  To do so, however, requires a forum.

Speaking of Mr. Santabarbara, who I voted for and do respect, and Mr. Amedore whom I also voted for and respect...where are they? Granted we can see Mr. Santabarbara at a county meeting but where is Mr. Amedore? We voted these people in to 'speak' for us. And although I realize that Mr. Santabarbara is new in politics, he still had a platform and a vision.

And as far as trying to save their 'behinds' or being devoured by the democratic wolves is just plain poppycock. That is politics. And ya need to be pretty thick skinned if you want to enter that arena. Cicero is correct when he says that Joe Suhrada is the ONLY rep who sticks his neck out for the people he represents and doesn't give a hoot what the dems say or do. We need more like him who will stand up to the plate and do and say what needs to be. Not hide with your tail between your legs for God's sake. And that is what it is appearing to be.

And may I also say that I am pretty sick and tired of hearing how awful Buchannan is. Personally, and like I've said before...he needs to go. But since he isn't, and if these reps REALLY want to get in there and represent the people, than I would strongly suggest that they abandon a sinking republican ship and join the conservs. The reps and conservs were always known to be lock step in many of their ideologies. Although these days it's hard to tell any of them apart!!

I agree that Mr. Amedore needs to do more, but at the same time, I realize that there's things that he is doing that are probably not advertised, such as the last public hearing for/against the raise in tolls for the NYS Thruway. He was there and did speak against it.  It got no coverage.  Part of the reason is that he's a newbie in the minority in the Assembly.  Not just a small majority, either.  He needs to get a little time under his belt, but at the same time, maybe it is time for him to start standing up and speaking.

I think that we need MANY people to start standing up and speaking, using all the tools at our disposal.  Personally, as I stated in another link, I saw that Mr. Santabarbara has a few videos on YouTube.  I think that this is something that our local officials / politicians should be using.  Let it become one of the viral videos out there.  I even found out that all of the ads that were on TV for the Amedore / Kosiur special election are still out on YouTube...even some I hadn't seen before I checked them out on there last night.

Maybe if we get more of our elected officials to start doing this, using the new media, i.e. YouTube, blogs, or old-school media, i.e. newspapers, TV news, calling into local and national radio stations, then they would get some more exposure and new things could happen.

Not to criticize ANYONE, but whether you are a Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Independent, or Tea Party head, you really need to find out what is needed to keep in touch with the youngest generation, the ones who may have never voted before (or no longer see any reason to come out and vote).

It could even be a bit of a savings on campaign funds.  Imagine the savings of NOT spending money on a local station and instead getting it seen by many people via something such as YouTube.  There's a reason some of these videos are called "viral."  They grow on you.

The only supervisor I have ever seen at the county legislature meetings is Rene from Duanesuburg. Others may have been there on days I was unable to attend. I think that all supervisors and/or town board members should be in attendance at these meetings.

We need the support of more people than the lone Joe Suhrada.

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Not to criticize ANYONE, but whether you are a Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Independent, or Tea Party head, you really need to find out what is needed to keep in touch with the youngest generation, the ones who may have never voted before (or no longer see any reason to come out and vote).

They are to busy giving DNA samples and looking for a "NEW DEAL"-----as far as I can see NYS is imploding............

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MT,

One issue is that the Republican sponsored legislation is never allowed to come to the floor to discuss, debate, and vote upon. Further, the Daily Gazette appears to recite in their news story only what is prepared for them by the majority party and those on the Metroplex Board of Directors. There is little investigative reporting, only promotion and cheerleading. IMHO the Albany Times Union provides better coverage of the important stories that pertain to Schenectady County than does the hometown newspaper.

Republicans don't need excuses, they need solutions. Joe Shurada is able to make his voice heard on AM radio shows, news paper editorials, and internet forums without costing the party money. Where's the rest of his party support? Republicans organize fund raisers when it's close to the next election cycle asking for financial support, but the time in between they do nothing to get out the party message. That's just lazy. And they wonder why they can't find people to support the party. Nobody knows what they would be supporting, and those who currently hold office who they would be supporting are spineless.

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I think that we need MANY people to start standing up and speaking, using all the tools at our disposal. Personally, as I stated in another link, I saw that Mr. Santabarbara has a few videos on YouTube. I think that this is something that our local officials / politicians should be using. Let it become one of the viral videos out there. I even found out that all of the ads that were on TV for the Amedore / Kosiur special election are still out on YouTube...even some I hadn't seen before I checked them out on there last night.

Maybe if we get more of our elected officials to start doing this, using the new media, i.e. YouTube, blogs, or old-school media, i.e. newspapers, TV news, calling into local and national radio stations, then they would get some more exposure and new things could happen.

Let's be realistic. Local politics is fought by using local media outlets. Local papers, local T.V. broadcast new, and local talk radio. Message board are starting to gain influence, but the topics are usually driven by print news articles, editorials, and television news clips. It's silly to think that you are going to reach the masses through Youtube videos.

Let's not over think this and get back to basics. Get the message out at all costs. Republicans need a steady drum beat of a winning message. Find that winning message.

Here's a message:

"Kill the monkey on NYS taxpayers backs"......(unless of course you are a body part of that monkey)

THE PEOPLE NEED AN ALTERNATIVE! Is that so hard to understand? The people are actually looking to the opposing parties for some leadership, vision and strength. Come on there Mr. Buchanan....what's it going to take to get your party moving? There is a need and the reps just aren't meeting it or even making an effort.

Joe Suhrada is the ONLY one who speaks up. He's the only one who puts his career on the line. I don't see any party support for Mr. Suhrada. Is he being used as the litmus paper to see what the fallout will be if someone else speaks their mind? Or is he being used as his sacrificial lamb.

I will say one thing...if Mr.Suhrada runs for re-election and loses...I would blame the entire republican party.

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SCHENECTADY
GOP expects long road to success
Committee recruits as it struggles to stay a float
BY KATHLEEN MOORE Gazette Reporter

    The city Republican Committee is planning for a long rebuilding process as it tries to become competitive in Schenectady politics again.
    Since only a judgeship is up for election in the city this fall, the Republicans have a year to try to recover from last November’s drubbings at the polls.
    However, Republican officials say that it will be years before the GOP returns to the level of success it once had in city politics.
    “For a long time it was a powerhouse. Now it’s a longtime rebuilding process,” said Republican Club tration is 2-to-1 in the Democrats’ favor, and every elected position in the city is held by a Democrat. The Republican candidate for mayor last year lost by the biggest margin in the city’s history. The party was also able to fi eld just one candidate for four City Council seats and one candidate for two county Legislature seats. Both were strongly rebuffed at the polls.
President Josh Fitzpatrick.
    In one indication of the city Republican Committee’s disarray, county GOP officials are still not certain who will lead the committee during the rebuilding. Former city attorney Michael Brockbank holds the reins for now.
Whoever leads the committee County GOP committee Chairwill face challenges. Voter regis- man Thomas Buchanan has said the city committee is dying. Fitzpatrick said it’s in such dire straits that the GOP now must recruit organizers from the suburbs and send them into the city to build a new generation of Republicans.
    “It’s hard, door-to-door work. It all starts at the grass-roots level,” he said, “There is a lot of work to do to rebuild the community. There’s a lot of work that still needs to be done.”
    But Buchanan said a city Republican could be elected even now, without the grass-roots foundation that may take years to build.
    “It takes a strong candidate who is well-financed with the right message,” Buchanan said.
    A perceived crisis also could become an election issue. “The voters will make a change when the need arises,” Buchanan said. “They may not think the crime is bad enough yet or the taxes aren’t just high enough yet, but when they do — we’ll be there to govern the city.”
    Fitzpatrick added that he doesn’t think voters turned away from the Republicans because they were dissatisfied with the GOP’s core values, priorities or effectiveness in achieving its goals.
    “Everything in politics, for good or bad, Republican or Democrat, in my opinion is cyclical,” he said. “When political parties have been in power for a couple years, these things ebb and flow.”
    He sees hope in the fact that his club has grown from 26 members to 83 in just the first four months of the year. Unfortunately, most of them live in the suburbs, which makes it difficult to find good candidates to run for city positions.
    “Recruiting candidates is not easy,” Fitzpatrick said.
    Buchanan put it more bluntly.
    “Are we able to attract quality candidates? Yes. Are we able to field them for every seat? No,” he said. “In the city, the Republicans need to reach out to a broader base of new voters.”

Well, while the reps are in the process of 'going door to door', how about starting in your own back yards to begin to make a difference. There are enough, not a lot, but enough political reps out there right now that have not been heard from or seen in months, if not years. Oh perhaps you can see them at one of their town meetings or perhaps a few events, but that is it!!
It is like Cicero said, there is the newspaper, tv and radio that is all free. They should start utilizing them as an outlet.

Because right now, I believe that most people think the republican party is all but extinct. At least in our neck of the woods. It's like they have never been heard from or seen again!!!

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A perceived crisis also could become an election issue. “The voters will make a change when the need arises,” Buchanan said. “They may not think the crime is bad enough yet or the taxes aren’t just high enough yet, but when they do — we’ll be there to govern the city.”

poor choice----just think right now those who control the guns control the masses and those who control the money control the masses----the only freakin' crisis is the current bricks being made without straw and the 'local mob'...........the sheeple better get a grip and pay attention----

It doesn't much matter which party, it is the foundation that is missing from BOTH parties----I would seek libertarians without democratic or republican ties.....

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Since only a judgeship is up for election in the city this fall, the Republicans have a year to try to recover from last November’s drubbings at the polls.

This may be all that is happening at the city level this year, but don't forget there's an opening on the county level in District 3 (Niskayuna / Scotia / Glenville) that is going to have to be voted on in November, too.

Republicans everywhere need to put the push on. We have some very stupid people out there who don't like Bush and will not vote for a republican because of HIM!! Bizarre to say the least...but that truly is the mentality out there. So people better get out there and take a very close look at that ideology and see that that mentality will only lead to a one party system. DANGEROUS!!!

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“It takes a strong candidate who is well-financed with the right message,” Buchanan said.
A perceived crisis also could become an election issue. “The voters will make a change when the need arises,” Buchanan said. “They may not think the crime is bad enough yet or the taxes aren’t just high enough yet, but when they do — we’ll be there to govern the city.”

A "wait and see" attitude! That's the type of leadership that the Republicans offer? This is the most disappointing article I've read about local politics in a while. This guy Buchanan is a moron.

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“Are we able to attract quality candidates? Yes. Are we able to field them for every seat? No,” he said. “In the city, the Republicans need to reach out to a broader base of new voters.”

How do Republicans expect to reach out to a broader base of voters when the party chair Buchanan was just quoted in the same article stating that "The voters will make the change when the need arises". I am dumbfounded! How do you reach out to the voters while waiting for the voters to change? Aren't leaders supposed to provoke change by articulating their message against the majority party? Unless Mr. Buchanan is satisfied with the way the Democrats are managing the County and the City.

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“It takes a strong candidate who is well-financed with the right message,” Buchanan said.

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“They may not think the crime is bad enough yet or the taxes aren’t just high enough yet, but when they do — we’ll be there to govern the city.”

Well Mr. Buchanan, maybe the right message would be that Republicans are going to do a better job fighting crime and lowering taxes? Don't sit back and wait for the people to realize this, be a little pro-active and bring that message to the people.

I wouldn't' give a dime to the Republican party with this worthless bum running it.

The Rotterdam Reps better get their rear in gear and start acting on SOMETHING!! If not it will be a democratic sweep in the next election.

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“They may not think the crime is bad enough yet or the taxes aren’t just high enough yet, but when they do — we’ll be there to govern the city.”

That's true leadership if ya ask me.....the state 'fines' healthcare centers for less.....

Think Term Limits ! If they don't make it a career they are less likely to do things to just get reelected? Maybe?

Term limits should definitely be in place for ALL elected governmental political positions. But who can we get to ever pass that law?

There's only one problem with term limits. When you finally get the right people into office, and they finally get to a point where they can do what they need to do, they usually would have to leave by then. Remember how things were back in the 80's? Now, I don't know if Reagan would have run for a third term if it was a possibility, but wouldn't this country be in a much better state if he had? I mean besides the fact that we wouldn't have had to deal with Bush Sr. for 4 years, we may have also avoided 8 years of Mr. Clinton, and maybe it wouldn't have filled Mrs. Clinton's head so full of hot air that she thinks she's going to win in a walk this November.

http://www.dailygazette.com

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‘We value your opinion. Please send it in, along with your check for $11’

    Just the other day, I received a very important letter from the National Republican Committee [NRC]. It said that I was among a select group of Republicans who have been chosen to take part in the official 2008 census of the Republican Party. It said that this document ”was assigned and prepared especially for you as a representative of all Republicans in your voting district.”
    The NRC is the only national GOP organization charged with helping win Republican victories, from the courthouse to the White House. They have asked me for my opinion. I swelled with pride. Or was it gas? The questions were simple, slanted and uncompromising; no space for comments or nuances. For example:
    “Do you support the use of force against any country that offers safe harbor or aid to individuals or organizations committed to further attacks on America?” Does that suggest we should consider bombing Iran, Palestine, Syria and Jordan, or just invading them?
    “Do you agree that sowing the seeds of democracy and freedom in the Middle East is a worthy goal?” Some countries have already freely elected their leaders, and we don’t like the results, so I guess that means invasion — pull down the government and establish a new one — as in Iraq.
    “Should we make our fight against the Democrats’ massive tax hikes a central part of the 2008 campaign?” I didn’t know that the Democrats proposed massive tax hikes, but that is one way of balancing the budget.
    “Should Republicans fight for a balanced budget?” Certainly, our federal government should stop spending money uselessly. That is another way to balance the budget.
    Then came the pitch; “I am enclosing my most generous contribution of $500, $250 ...” and so on, with a minimum of “$11 to cover the cost of tabulating my survey.” That seems like an expensive tabulation indeed. The alternative reply was “No, I favor electing liberal Democrats over the next 10 years.” How did they calculate 10 years? I can see four or eight years, but not 10. Perhaps they were thinking of the federal courthouses.
    By this time, I knew it was gas.
    I did not send in my survey form, or my money, but I did write this letter as a contribution to our Republican campaign.
    KERNAN DAVIS
    Scotia

A few years ago I received a similar survey from the National Republican Committee, I filled it out and sent it in. That was the biggest mistake of my life. I started receiving mailers from them atleast every day and sometimes two or three pieces of mail a day. They called me relentlessly and every time asking for money. When I told them no, they would always resort to calling me a liberal democrat. I had no choice but to resort to calling them #$%%, and demanding they take me off their list. It took a while but they finally did.

There needs to be a new local party organized. Grassroots style. There are many Republicans and conservative independents who vote Republican just because they won't vote the Democrat alternative. And Republicans count on being the lesser of two evils choice for those conservatives and independents. Believe it or not, there are still people out there who want to vote for a candidate based on their principles and not just their party affiliation. The local conservative party and independent party never run a candidate, they just endorse one of the two major parties, hoping to use the little political clout they do have, to get party bosses and the organizations they represent in favorable status when negotiating with elected officials. For example, the Conservative party being hijacked by the RPD, and Chief Hamilton.

I believe there should be a PEOPLES PARTY FOR RESPONSIBLE GOVERNING, for those who want an alternative from the two major parties as well as the two minor parties, deeply entrenched and corrupting effect on Schenectady County politics.

I was re-reading the article "GOP expects long road to success". I found a quote that I thought was backwards.

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But Buchanan said a city Republican could be elected even now, without the grass-roots foundation that may take years to build.
“It takes a strong candidate who is well-financed with the right message,” Buchanan said.

I don't know about anybody else, but I would be more inclined to donate to a Republican with the right message, rather than donate my money to the party and hope that they find a candidate with right message.

It sounds to me that Republicans look for money fist, message second.

They wonder why they have trouble fund raising locally.

THE PEOPLES PARTY FOR RESPONSIBLE GOVERNING

Balancing the scales for a just government

[quoted by Cicero]Believe it or not, there are still people out there who want to vote for a candidate based on their principles and not just their party affiliation. [/quote]

That is good to know.  I find more people with that attitude than with the "party loyal" attitude when campaigning in D'burg.

[quoted by Cicero]I believe there should be a PEOPLES PARTY FOR RESPONSIBLE GOVERNING, for those who want an alternative from the two major parties as well as the two minor parties, deeply entrenched and corrupting effect on Schenectady County politics.[/quote]

How is Michael doing with his new party?  I fear that even if a new party were formed and was successful it would only be a matter of time before it became no different than the major parties, looking out for their own special interest.

As for the money, it is really too bad that the focus is on funding a campaign, but the sad fact is thats what it takes.  Even with a strong candidate from either party it takes money and lots of it to get your message out.  Literature is expensive, postage is expensive.  Assume a candidate can hit every door in District #4, at the cost of fuel this too is very expensive.  Especially when you are wandering around in Duanesburg and Princetown.  The houses are so spread out you can't walk other than in the hamlets so you have to drive.

I love your scales of balance!!  Ain't that the truth?

First, on a whole, I do not feel that I am being represented by either party.

Second, in order to form a grass roots effort, you need informed people. Unfortunatley it is becoming hard pressed to find them.

I've been thinking about the same type of thing. And I think I came up with a name for it last night.

The Patriot Party.

And we already have our charter. It's this old thing some people may have heard of...the Constitution.

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How is Michael doing with his new party?  I fear that even if a new party were formed and was successful it would only be a matter of time before it became no different than the major parties, looking out for their own special interest.

As for the money, it is really too bad that the focus is on funding a campaign, but the sad fact is thats what it takes.  Even with a strong candidate from either party it takes money and lots of it to get your message out.  Literature is expensive, postage is expensive.  Assume a candidate can hit every door in District #4, at the cost of fuel this too is very expensive.  Especially when you are wandering around in Duanesburg and Princetown.  The houses are so spread out you can't walk other than in the hamlets so you have to drive.

I love your scales of balance!!  Ain't that the truth?

I'm poised, but as you certainly know, Rene, NYS election law is complicated and I'm busy making sure I get it right. You're absolutelty right about the money aspect and that's gonna be a challenge to some degree but I'm determined to do it on no one's nickel but my own if I proceed. You can't play by the old rules while trying to make new rules.

As far as the real topic of this thread, I'm convinced the Republicans are finished in the short-term. I likely will change my affiliation after the next election because I've been annoyed by the repeated and rude attempts to garner my vote and money.

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I've been thinking about the same type of thing. And I think I came up with a name for it last night.

The Patriot Party.

And we already have our charter. It's this old thing some people may have heard of...the Constitution.

You can double-check me Kevin but I'm pretty sure that party already exists in a fashion.

The problem is that most people are too busy with their personal lives to inform themselves on what is happening in their own community. I see it with my own children they are going to little league games, soccer games, to camp on weekends, and work during the week and they don't even care about politics because they say they can't do anything about what's going on.

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The problem is that most people are too busy with their personal lives to inform themselves on what is happening in their own community. I see it with my own children they are going to little league games, soccer games, to camp on weekends, and work during the week and they don't even care about politics because they say they can't do anything about what's going on.

Most people do believe that there is nothing that they can do to make a change or a difference. And because of that, they are truly uninformed. All I can say, is that for those that are uniformed...they have what is coming to them. This is just what the government want. People to be either too busy or too dumb to figure out what they are actually doing. It's all BS!

I am afraid to initiate real change it will take more than another political party or the Constitution. Both, new parties and the Constitution have been around a while. It will take an awareness of every person who lives in this country/state/county/town. An awareness of the part played by politicians in their every day lives. An awareness and the initiative to call "stupid" stupid when the need arises. Confrontation and correction of wrongs when they are imposed on each of us.

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The problem is that most people are too busy with their personal lives to inform themselves on what is happening in their own community. I see it with my own children they are going to little league games, soccer games, to camp on weekends, and work during the week and they don't even care about politics because they say they can't do anything about what's going on.

yeah, it's the story of the Ant and the Grasshopper played out in everyone's lives to a certain degree.......

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I was re-reading the article "GOP expects long road to success".  I found a quote that I thought was backwards.

I don't know about anybody else, but I would be more inclined to donate to a Republican with the right message, rather than donate my money to the party and hope that they find a candidate with right message.

It sounds to me that Republicans look for money fist, message second.

They wonder why they have trouble fund raising locally.

SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL.......

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It sounds to me that Republicans look for money fist, message second.

I pay my own way, except for a few donations along the way (thanks Brad).
To get my message out? I spend three months door to door.

I realize it is very time consuming going door to door, but I think that is the way it should be. I am also not against donations. I personally would donate time and/or money to the person running as opposed to donating to the party.

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I realize it is very time consuming going door to door, but I think that is the way it should be. I am also not against donations. I personally would donate time and/or money to the person running as opposed to donating to the party.

If more people thought this way, top to bottom, we'd end up getting better candidates I think. If more "grass roots" people took this position, and only got behind candidates who they believed in, rather than just party affiliation, the whole dynamic changes. OFC, it wouldn't hurt to have the various party structures stay out of things until after any/all primaries are over with.

I don't always agree with the parties choice of candidates or how they spend their (my) money. I do understand that political parties also need funds and volunteers to help run their campaigns. I just choose to support the candidate of my choice.

This about the 20 th flag day parade I attended in my life here, tonight was the annual flag day parade down Curry road. I noticed the same thing I noticed for the past several years and it does alarm me because my father fought for our nation and I honor the flag. In the parade among the officials there ( i made notes after) Senator Farley, John Mertz, Steve Tomm, James Burhmaster, Joe Shrada and Angelo Santabarbara. Among them was one alone Democrat and that was Dawnie Pascariello. Dawn never misses BUT every other Democrat skipped out and I tell you over and over the same stuff -and I once(about 5 or 6 years ago) talked to Mike Kirvin since he was the last Democrat I saw in that parade (and he told me that the Democrats schedule a Democrat meeting on that night and could care less but he skipped the meeting, came to the parade instead) So good for him. But really where was Judy D and Tony J, her yes man on her lap, and the rest of the Savage crew? Why aren't they honoring the flag??? How can they be so insensitive to blow off the flag day ceremony at the Elks and the parade? I think it is callous to the vets. Yeah I know the flag is OUT and the vets are OUT, the current fad says we should peace at all costs, and protesting means more bravery than be in the uniform, and that burning the flag to cinders is cool, rather than honoring it, maybe the Savagettes did a poll on which was more popular? But this is the kind of symbolism that means something to me for my father and all the men who dies and all of the women and men in uniform now fighting.

Now before you give me an earful and a lecture and say where was this Republican or that Republican, let me say I counted SIX, count them- SIX Republicans and ONE democrat, and last year it was worse and the year before it enraged me since it was ALL Republicans and NO democrats except 80 year old Eunice, so I am just generalizing with the odds here. So Democrats you have voted with your 'feet' more or less and skipped out on school, and the lesson was honoring the flag and our country and it's martyrs. You get a D- andif it weren't for Dawn, you would surely have an F.

That is very sad----no matter which party.....I would also wonder if there were other celebrations goings on around the county.....??? :-/ :-/ :-/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344429,00.html

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Uniting the Republican Party

By Michael Steele

A great deal has changed since President Reagan left the national stage. Our enemies have come to our shores, the rising tide of our economy has not "lifted all boats" and our government has increased, not lessened its intrusion into our lives. However, many of the issues that united us during the Reagan Revolution in the 1980s — lower taxes, less government spending, free markets and strong national security — are the same issues that motivate voters today.

Reagan’s successes were in large part due to his ability to focus on those things that unite us. Rather than trying to divide the American people along philosophical or political lines, he made a connection with average citizens through themes that inspired us and policies that restored our national pride as well as the security and prosperity of a nation. Reagan did the unthinkable: he helped America embrace conservatism and the core beliefs of the Republican Party.

While our party has changed too, the core of who we are and what we believe has not. Republicans are not conflicted by the ups and downs of elections, but rather by the very nature of conservatism in this post-Reagan era. We are conflicted over defining the vision of the conservative movement, its radical nature, and the unique challenges and opportunities that lie before America. We are conflicted over who and how we will lead during these changing times. Republicans stand on the precipice of conservatism, ready to throw each other off because we feel as if we’ve lost our grip on what conservatism means; indeed, what it means to be a republican.

But, we should never lose faith first and foremost in our belief in the power and ingenuity of the individual to create the legacy of a nation through hard work and self-discipline. Conservatives must stand firm once again in our belief that government should be limited so that it never becomes powerful enough to infringe on the rights of the individual. We must reaffirm the principle of lowering taxes so that individuals might keep more of their hard earned wages, and realize the economic power that it generates. Republicans must promote business regulations that encourage entrepreneurs to take risks so that more individuals can enjoy the satisfaction and fruits of self-made success; and our party must always remain steadfast in its defense of a colorblind society, so that each man or woman is treated as an individual and not as a member of some hyphenated class or group.

Conservatives now have a window of opportunity to demonstrate the truth of America: that every American regardless of his or her station in life, upbringing or social status has the opportunity to turn their hopes into action and to realize the promise that is the American dream! Ronald Reagan understood that; and he acted to lift a dispirited nation to become that “shining city on a hill”.

Republicans must remind America once again that its promise is the promise of endless possibilities and define for countless generations those values we hold dear: the value to the soul of religious faith, complete integrity, loyalty, and truthfulness. Let’s honor America with incorruptible public service, a respect for economy in government, self-reliance, thrift, and individual liberty. Let’s stand firm in our patriotism, real love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it as those who have gone before us.

The Party of Lincoln is the Party of ideas and leadership that have made and will continue to make this nation great. Republicans must now gather strength from within as we enter a critical period in America's history. We must work to restore faith in our Party by standing on those principles that not only unite us as Republicans, but as Americans. Republicans need to stop looking for Reagan and start acting like Republicans.

It is still a long and bumpy road to the White House this November, but I am confident that Republicans and the conservative movement they inspired will regain in strength if we stick to those values that have long-united our Party and stirred a generation to join our cause. These are the values that continue to empower, uplift and remind us that America will always be the one place on earth where possibility meets opportunity. A place we call the American dream.

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