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City Planning Commission OKs site plan for 4-story Courtyard Marriott
By Paul Nelson  Updated 10:59 pm, Wednesday, April 15, 2015

After enjoying the casino and harbor and other attractions at the Rivers Casino and Resort at Mohawk Harbor, future visitors would be able to unwind at the Courtyard Marriott hotel.

The Planning Commission Wednesday unanimously approved the site plan for the four-story facility that is part of the $450 million building project under construction at the former Alco property on Erie Boulevard.

The panel, however, delayed voting on lighting issues related to the hotel because the developer is still finalizing details on the issue.


BBL Hospitality will help run the upscale 124-room hotel that is an "ideal fit for this property especially with the casino," according to Dan Hershberg, a civil engineer and consultant on the Mohawk Harbor project.

"The goal would be to have people take advantage of retail uses and the casino," added Hershberg during his presentation about the project — a partnership between Rotterdam-based Galesi Group and Rush Street Gaming of Chicago. "It complements the area and gives you a nice first view of the site."

The hotel, which he described as a Courtyard prototype, will also feature a sitting area with a fire pit and outdoor furniture that is "intended to be a gathering space for guests." There will also be easy access to the harbor with a walkway from the hotel to the five-acre 50-boat slip marina.

The residential retail development also calls for more than 300 apartments and a second hotel linked to a150-room hotel that hasn't been publicly named.

The Courtyard Marriott's 125 parking spaces would be more than able to accommodate the 20-person staff since they will be working during the days when people are usually checking out, Hershberg said.

James Tripp with Rochester-based HBT architects said the hotel will be adorned with the familiar red-and-white illuminated "Courtyard" name, being 30 inches high and Marriott name at 25 inches.

Besides the lighting, Hershberg told the commission that their experts are still ironing out the landscaping details which were talked about in general terms.

"My guess is that there's going to be more trees than less trees," said Hershberg.

Commissioner Tom Carey asked Tripp about the hotel's energy efficiency and renewable energy to "help offset the impact of the project" on the environment. Tripp said they were talking with the state Energy Research and Development Authority about their options.

The team of professional experts is expected to return next month to the commission to present specifics about the 151,000-square-foot casino and will have to do the same for each of the individual buildings on the 60-acre parcel that Galesi owns.

The gambling hall would have 66 table games and 1,150 slot machines.

Galesi's team of professional experts are expected to return next month to the commission to present specifics about casino for possible site plan approval.


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Oh the 50+ year old baby man who is NOT a taxpayer, supported by his two mommies, no financial cares in the world, is cheering for the financially struggling homeowners to have more money stolen from them to give to the millionaires and billionaires.

The baby who REFUSES to live IN the city, and refuses BUY a house anywhere in the county!


Ask this ALLEGED Catholic if Jesus supports that the mayor and plex are taxing the people of the city  to give the money to the ultra rich, and the alleged Catholic WILL NOT RESPOND.


And he will NOT EVER comment, speak on the the city being THE HIGHEST TAXED AROUND, falliing tax base, falling home values, falling home sales, falling home sale prices, reduction of essential services, making homeonwers pay the demolition of a building owned by a billionaire, increasing taxes, increasing blight, increasing people fleeing the the city in droves, the mayor refusing to reassess in accordance with state law, the hypocrite mayor who says his department head will all live IN the city and then the top cop is exempt from living in the crime ridden highest taxed city, won't comment on the daily shootings and stabbings, and won't comment on the increasing taxes when the city is already the highest taxed.

Cowards cannot comment when facts with evidence are put in front of them because they are proven wrong.


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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My prediction...  In 5 years instead of the 5 restaurants existing on the backs of gamblers...

It will be the casino existing on the backs of the great food that the Mallozzi's put out.  And while they will probably be busy, I doubt the casino will be.

Not aware of any entertainment there because of double-star exemption guy's hissy fits.
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Quoted from mikechristine1



Ask this ALLEGED Catholic if Jesus supports that the mayor and plex are taxing the people of the city  to give the money to the ultra rich, and the alleged Catholic WILL NOT RESPOND.


'render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render unto God what is God's'.

mc1.....i'm assuming that you tithe 10% of your gross earnings to your church....yes? ....render unto God......


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Not really sure how just posting an article from the Times Union without making any personal commentary justifies being personally attacked by a certain person(s).  
The fact is that the city planning commission approved the Courtyard by Marriot.  People are free to think it is a good or a bad thing.  
However, the only personal commentary that I will make on the matter is this:  Based on the artist renderings of the proposed hotel building, I would have pushed for a design and more landscaping around the building.  The facade (as depicted in the artist's rendering) looks "blah" and it appears as if the blacktop comes right up to the building except for a teeny-tiny space for some teeny-tiny bushes.  
Given its proximity to the Stockade area, "Mohawk Harbor" should probably be designed to have a mix of facades (1680's to 1840's era architectural features -- Colonial, early American, Classic/Greek Revival) ... mimicking the historic architecture of the Stockade.
The placement of green space and type of plantings used is also crucial.  IMHO, a few tiny bushes in front of a cookie cutter generic commercial building is NOT good landscape design -- in the city or even here in town.
We need to have BOTH building codes/standards and design/landscaping codes/standards.  


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I don't think anyone is really that surprised.


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The casino is a make work project with no productive value.  Do you think anybody cares about the landscaping?


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The casino is a make work project with no productive value.  Do you think anybody cares about the landscaping?

You're right...that's why casinos like in Vegas spend billions for elaborate facades, waterfalls, groomed grounds, etc.  
Yup, you are truly in-touch, (but not with reality)!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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You're right...that's why casinos like in Vegas spend billions for elaborate facades, waterfalls, groomed grounds, etc.  
Yup, you are truly in-touch, (but not with reality)!


You are comparing Vegas casinos that actually have to compete against other casinos in a city that is zoned for gambling, to ONE casino going into Schenectady, chosen by the NYS government, with no competition of other casinos within 50+ miles.  

Yeah, you're really in touch with reality.  The Schenectady casino needs the dancing fountains to attract customers.  


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You are comparing Vegas casinos that actually have to compete against other casinos in a city that is zoned for gambling, to ONE casino going into Schenectady, chosen by the NYS government, with no competition of other casinos within 50+ miles.  

Yeah, you're really in touch with reality.  The Schenectady casino needs the dancing fountains to attract customers.  

Been to Turning Stone lately?????


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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City Planning Commission OKs site plan for 4-story Courtyard Marriott
By Paul Nelson  Updated 10:59 pm, Wednesday, April 15, 2015

After enjoying the casino and harbor and other attractions at the Rivers Casino and Resort at Mohawk Harbor, future visitors would be able to unwind at the Courtyard Marriott hotel.
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Galesi's team of professional experts are expected to return next month to the commission to present specifics about casino for possible site plan approval.




WHOO WHOO!

CHEER CHEER

RAH RAH

The city is improving!!!!    

The "best" is yet to come ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Yep, all kinds of health problems

YEP!    "After enjoying the casino and harbor and other attractions ..." the visitors will be taken to the hospital, die prematurely, suffer huge financial loss."



DV, have you made your reservation to stay at the hotel yet?

Have you made a downpayment on a condo or signed a rental lease yet, to live ON the POLLUTED property?    Have you put the money aside to pay your own medical expenses when you get sick because you know, Galesi will NOT pay for you.




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