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DemocraticVoiceOfReason
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This proves what I have been saying all along:

New Siena College Research Institute Survey Shows Strong Support for Redevelopment Efforts in Downtown Schenectady

Schenectady, N.Y., February 27, 2015 — The Schenectady County Metroplex Development Authority today released the results of a new survey conducted by the Siena College Research Institute.

On every metric, this survey shows, Schenectady County residents are coming downtown at increasing rates and support continuing development.  Downtown not only matters to Schenectady County residents but they are proud of and excited by the progress,” said Siena Research Institute’s Director, Dr. Don Levy.

Ray Gillen, Metroplex Chair said, “This survey will help us to continue to improve and refine our redevelopment work in Schenectady County.”

The survey found that:

89% of County residents surveyed visited downtown Schenectady for work, business, entertainment, shopping or any other reason in the last 12 months, up from 79 percent in 2008.
83% of Schenectady residents agree that in order for Schenectady County to be a first class place to live, the community needs an active and appealing downtown.
79% think a revitalized downtown will help everyone in the county.
81% agree or strongly agree with the statement that downtown Schenectady has really come back to life in the last few years.
74% agree that they are excited about the new developments in the downtown area.
86% say that their overall opinion of downtown Schenectady is considerably (53%) better or a little better (33%) than it was several years ago and 81% say that their opinion of downtown is better than it was ten years ago.
Looking forward, 70% believe that downtown will continue to be revitalized while only 20% expect it to stay about the same as today and 8% anticipate a less appealing area.
70% support the development of additional housing in downtown. 26% of all residents and 40% of those 18 to 34 years old say that they would consider living downtown.
75% percent support using a small percentage of Schenectady County sales tax revenue for funding efforts to create jobs in downtown Schenectady and 66% support using sales tax revenue to provide funding for downtown development projects. 58% support using public monies to assist in the redevelopment of business parks in Schenectady County. Metroplex invests ½ % of the County sales tax for economic development efforts so this shows support for the Metroplex development model.
For those who are very familiar, somewhat familiar or not very familiar with Metroplex, when asked whether they would say that Metroplex has or has not been as asset to the community, 73 percent say that it has been an asset. Among those that are very or somewhat familiar with Metroplex, over 80 percent say that the Schenectady County Metroplex Development Authority has been an asset to the community.
The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.9%.  Metroplex last conducted a Siena survey in 2008.  A copy of the new survey is available at this link.

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About Siena College Research Institute

Founded in 1980, the Siena College Research Institute conducts regional, statewide and national surveys on business, economic, political, voter, social, academic and historical issues. The surveys include both expert and public opinion polls.


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yup...fromeverywhere in the county....yet 0% would like to pay city taxes      
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Certainly people support having a redone downtown.

But tell us DV, tell us, come on, I DEFY you to present the EVIDENCE that homeowners fully support paying the tax bills of Galesi and all the other rich political cronies downtown.

I DEFY you to present the EVIDENCE says homeowners fully and completely understand that they must experience a reduction in their home value combined with paying taxes of the millionaires downtown in exchange for having a re-done downtown.

I DEFY you to present the EVIDENCE that states that homeowners fully support the FACT that many homes will be forced to lose their homes due to tax foreclosure because they cannot afford to pay the higher tax bills which go to pay for the tax bills of the millionaires downtown.

I DEFY you, DV, to present the EVIDENCE that homeowners are fully supportive of being underwater on their mortgages in order to have a downtown built at taxpayer expense.

I DEFY you, DV, to present the EVIDENCE that homeowners in the city are fully supportive and overjoyed knowing that if they ever need to sell their hone, that they will only be able to sell it for $70,000 when they paid $100,000 for it.

Well, DV?   Where is your EVIDENCE of these things?


Yes, people support redoing downtown, but provide the EVIDENCE that are wiling to pay for it themselves and NEVER see a return on their forced "investment."


Tell us DV, please provide a list here of what homeowners have gotten in return for paying for downtown, homeowners were FORCED to "invest" in downtown via higher taxes, now DV, please provide a list here of what the homeowners have received in return, what is the "return on investment" homeowners have gotten for themselves, their own personal financial situation, and what their neighborhoods have gotten.




Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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"The Schenectady County Metroplex Development Authority today released the results of a new survey"

gee...how could it be any other way but sun shining out its a*s positive?          
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Quoted from mikechristine1
Certainly people support having a redone downtown.

But tell us DV, tell us, come on, I DEFY you to present the EVIDENCE that homeowners fully support paying the tax bills of Galesi and all the other rich political cronies downtown.

I DEFY you to present the EVIDENCE says homeowners fully and completely understand that they must experience a reduction in their home value combined with paying taxes of the millionaires downtown in exchange for having a re-done downtown.

I DEFY you to present the EVIDENCE that states that homeowners fully support the FACT that many homes will be forced to lose their homes due to tax foreclosure because they cannot afford to pay the higher tax bills which go to pay for the tax bills of the millionaires downtown.

I DEFY you, DV, to present the EVIDENCE that homeowners are fully supportive of being underwater on their mortgages in order to have a downtown built at taxpayer expense.

I DEFY you, DV, to present the EVIDENCE that homeowners in the city are fully supportive and overjoyed knowing that if they ever need to sell their hone, that they will only be able to sell it for $70,000 when they paid $100,000 for it.

Well, DV?   Where is your EVIDENCE of these things?


Yes, people support redoing downtown, but provide the EVIDENCE that are wiling to pay for it themselves and NEVER see a return on their forced "investment."


Tell us DV, please provide a list here of what homeowners have gotten in return for paying for downtown, homeowners were FORCED to "invest" in downtown via higher taxes, now DV, please provide a list here of what the homeowners have received in return, what is the "return on investment" homeowners have gotten for themselves, their own personal financial situation, and what their neighborhoods have gotten.




(yawn)  Provide proof that you live in the city or actually do anything constructive to improve the city.
Provide proof that you are actually something other than a boorish, boring inconsequential internet troll.


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(yawn)  Provide proof that you live in the city or actually do anything constructive to improve the city.
Provide proof that you are actually something other than a boorish, boring inconsequential internet troll.


Neither of us has EVER stated that we lived IN the city, we are in the same town as you, but we are actually taxpayers, we write the checks to the town and the school district.  

Do you believe that city council people failing to pay taxes improves the city?   Do you believe that a metroplex architect with a wife (trying to sell houses for the city who also sits on the board of assessment and denies every grievance that comes before her) who are tax deadbeats is good for the city?   DDo you think that a high paid county employee (who got a no interest mortgage from the with no regular schedule of payments) who sits on the school board and makes decisions to increase others' taxes while she herself is a tax delinquent (yet the city never does anything to her despite the fACT that her mortgage from the city MANDATES she be current on taxes) is a good thing?

Is it good for the average city taxpayers to have to have their taxes increased to pay for these politically connected tax delinquents?

Is it constructive to for the city to keep secrets from the taxpayers by refusing to inform them that politically connected people are tax deadbeats but get to keep their homes, while the average homeowners who cannot afford those taxes lose their homes?


Yes, how about we, upon discovering that the politically connected are tax deadbeats and yet do not lose their homes, worked with others to make sure this theft from the city homeowners is made public!   That IS being constructive and that IS doing something POSITIVE for the city residents.  It helps improve the city because it informs the average people that the mayor lies, the mayor gives favors to his cronies and makes the average people pay for the politically connected.

Yes, DV, reporting corruption by the mayor and his cronies helps improve the city.  The more people that learn of the corruption by the mayor and his cronies, the better.

But since you are still a 50+ year old baby boy, still living with your two mommies, not being a NORMAL adult man living on your own, independent and totally self sufficient, and since you are NOT a taxpayer, you don't understand.  


Not to mention that you NEVER admit that the city tax base is falling.   And you NEVER explain how a  massively falling tax base is good for the city.  You NEVER explain how falling home values combined with increased taxes combined with reduction of essential services to the taxpayers is good for the city.  You NEVER explain how exempting millionaires from paying taxes which causes long time homeowners to lose their homes (due to inability to pay increase taxes) is a good thing for the city.  You NEVER explain why having record high numbers of tax foreclosures is a good thing for the city.   You NEVER explain why falling home sales AND falling home sale prices is a good thing for the city.


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Brushing aside the repeated sniveling, whining and lying rants of the inconsequential nayboobs - this poll clearly shows that there is a positive mood in the City-County of Schenectady.  Now, it is the time for the rest of us, who love our community, pay taxes and work hard to improve our community, to work together to continue to spread the RENAISSANCE to every neighborhood in every part of our beloved City-County.


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The questions were skewed to get the desired responses.

Ask how many would support paying higher property taxes to fund the downtown makeover.

Ask the homeowners who were robbed to bribe the rich developers, their opinions on corporate welfare, financed by homeowners' property taxes.

Opinions and moods don't keep you out of bankruptcy.
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This proves what I have been saying all along:



It merely proves that you are an idiot.

Asking people if they like things paid for by others is a ridiculous question.

The questions should have been targeted to only ask the mood of those who's taxes were doubled to remodel for millionaires.

Ask them how satisfied that they are that their property taxes have skyrocketed and their home values have plummeted.

I wouldn't have a problem with remodeling downtown, if the money was given to them as loans at fair market value, repayable back to the taxpayers.

But it wasn't. It was corporate welfare.

Dressing up the neighborhoods using homeowner tax dollars would be reasonable.

Giving welfare to the rich is horrible.

Spin it all you want, it's massive corporate welfare.

All the new businesses have done nothing to ease the burden on the taxpayers who financed it all.

A quarter of a billion dollars has been funneled into downtown.

Keep patting yourselves on the back for being good thieving bastarrds.

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Quoted from Libertarian4life
The questions were skewed to get the desired responses.

Ask how many would support paying higher property taxes to fund the downtown makeover.

Ask the homeowners who were robbed to bribe the rich developers, their opinions on corporate welfare, financed by homeowners' property taxes.

Opinions and moods don't keep you out of bankruptcy.


The questions were not skewed and they did ask the taxpayers.  A majority of the people don't agree with you so you call them idiots (in your other post) -- that is typical extremist thinking from the frauds .. I mean folks ... who call themselves "Libertarians."  


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This proves what I have been saying all along:

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You posted the words making the claim that proves what you have been saying, then in the next breath you claim that the Sienna surveys aren't your opinions.

You despise those who speak out against the corporate welfare thievery that you support.

Your 25 years of religious background is a massive failure.

You preach hatred for the taxpayers and you worship the wealthy and the government stooges who rob the taxpayers, for the rich.

You preach like an anti-Christ preacher.

You need to go confess to God, your worship of wealth, your arrogance and your hatred for others.

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You posted the words making the claim that proves what you have been saying, then in the next breath you claim that the Sienna surveys aren't your opinions.

You despise those who speak out against the corporate welfare thievery that you support.

Your 25 years of religious background is a massive failure.

You preach hatred for the taxpayers and you worship the wealthy and the government stooges who rob the taxpayers, for the rich.

You preach like an anti-Christ preacher.

You need to go confess to God, your worship of wealth, your arrogance and your hatred for others.



The survey proves that most people in Schenectady share my view that the city is improving and that it is better off than it was a little more than 10 years ago.  
You are either confused or purposely trying to twist things. My statement regarding my opinion in regards to a Siena survey was on a SEPARATE ISSUE about a ISSUE on a DIFFERENT ISSUE.  
The rest of your rant is just a bunch of insane jibberish and falsehoods.  And you are the one that seems full of hatred.  


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The survey proves that most people in Schenectady share my view that the city is improving and that it is better off than it was a little more than 10 years ago.  
You are either confused or purposely trying to twist things. My statement regarding my opinion in regards to a Siena survey was on a SEPARATE ISSUE about a ISSUE on a DIFFERENT ISSUE.  
The rest of your rant is just a bunch of insane jibberish and falsehoods.  And you are the one that seems full of hatred.  


The survey is an opinion of Sienna college.

You are attempting to call it a fact.

No details of the surveyed respondents, no details of the actual phrasing of the questions.

Like I said, one of us is a statistician, and one thinks that an opinion based on unknown questions and who was targeted are facts.

You worship wealthy corporate welfare kings.

You despise the homeowners who's quarter of a billion dollars was funneled into the downtown money pit.

You don't even know the difference between an opinion poll and a fact.

You should demand your tuition money back from Sienna.



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the questions never ask the why/how.....

those questions are like asking

"do you like hair on your head?"
"do you think it would be nice if the government were to put hair on everyone's head?"
"do you think in the long run it would be better if everyone has hair on their head?"
"do you think the government's policies are enough to support putting hair on everyone's head?"
"how often do you notice people with hair on their head and compliment them?"

you see, the sienna poll questions are all about palatable results/wants....NOT WHY/HOW

what if the public were to find out that the government policy to get everyone to have hair on their head came from American
soldiers scalping muslim extremists and sending the hair back home for transplant onto people's heads?????

how does everyone think that poll would come out?


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The survey is an opinion of Sienna college.

You are attempting to call it a fact.

No details of the surveyed respondents, no details of the actual phrasing of the questions.

Like I said, one of us is a statistician, and one thinks that an opinion based on unknown questions and who was targeted are facts.

You worship wealthy corporate welfare kings.

You despise the homeowners who's quarter of a billion dollars was funneled into the downtown money pit.

You don't even know the difference between an opinion poll and a fact.

You should demand your tuition money back from Sienna.





Obviously, you did not read very carefully.  I clearly stated : "The survey proves that most people in Schenectady share my view that the city is improving and that it is better off than it was a little more than 10 years ago."   Which is saying that they share my opinion.  

Furthermore, YOU are clearly neither a statistician nor have a basic understanding of polling.  Why? Because ou did, you would not have made the ridiculous statement "The survey is an opinion of Sienna college."
  Your other comments are ludicrous and you don't even know how to spell the name of the college.

Just face it, more people in Schenectady share my positive, optimistic view of Schenectady than share your eternally negative view.


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