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What businesses?   Where downtown can you buy electronics, DVD's. CD's, crafts, hardware, clothing, house needs, etc?

Yeah, a bunch of gin mills are opening.


Care to tell us when you are going to move downtown?      


it's all on the internet....cities will not be what they are today.....the future is coming....although I'm not sure if gin mills
are the answer......
let's hope they don't turn into a Terminus or a Slab City.........


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it's all on the internet....cities will not be what they are today.....the future is coming....although I'm not sure if gin mills
are the answer......
let's hope they don't turn into a Terminus or a Slab City.........




That's true for some things.   Sure DVD's, CD's, often getting it online can be good as long as you know exactly what you're looking for.  For example, if something is so and so's "Greatest Hits Volume 1."  As long as you can see online exactly what songs are on that "volume 1" that works, but truly I have seen CD's online where you just could not see a list of what other songs are on the CD.  

But clothing, how do you buy clothing online unless maybe it's tee-shirts or socks  or something you have bought in a store and then you can purchase it repeatedly online, you find jeans you like and you buy a couple pair every 6 months?   Other than that as every manufacturer is different, it is total impossibility to buy clothes online.   What is a size 10 for one manufacturer is a size 16 in another.   How many times do people pay S&H to buy a coat to find this style has sleeves too short, the next one you try is too long, the next one you buy is one size bigger than you normally wear but it's too snug.  Granted, you can drive somewhere to try coats on in the store, then drive home and order it, but then if it arrives with a broken zipper, then you have to make that trip to the post office to ship it back, wait for another.  Much easier to buy it in the store, make sure zipper works, no rips in the lining, etc.   Try to buy a suit online?  How does the internet do tailoring?  

We bought Yankee Candles online once, had a coupon, ordered online, guess what, they were broken upon arrival.  Naturally either we did without the candles for the holiday or we went to the mall to buy them  in person.   Thank goodness we bought in a quantity that we didn't pay S&H.  


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Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Something that not everyone is aware of, in the "global economy", even some name brands where you think you know your size get farmed out to various overseas manufacturers, the clothing can be an inch different from what their size is supposed to be. Plus it will come with bedbugs in the packaging, but don't talk about that.
I need some sneakers. I've been downtown a couple of times recently, are sneakers something you shouldn't expect to be able to buy in a city this size?
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don't ever expect downtown to look like it did back in the GE days.
First.....GE moved out.....no disposable cash/no jobs.
Second....there was the birth of the MALLS!
Folks flooded the malls like they were the best thing since sliced bread.

I'm not that closed minded to new ideas.
I don't care if downtown was nothing but Gin Mills....or movie theaters.....or restaurants....or hotels.

I DO care how they get there....so to say.
Interest free taxpayer funded loans, tax exemptions and the back room deals...blah blah blah.


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THERE ARE NO F'N RETAIL .....WAKE UP DV......THAT'S NOT BUILDING ECONOMY BY HAVE FOOD AND DRINK....

IT WILL NEVER BE AGAIN......AND THE CAUSE???????????......GOVERNMENT AND THEIR WARPED MINDS OF WHAT A CITY SHOULD BE....
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Marv Cermak from this mornings TU.

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Downtown haunts helping to create electric nightlife
Updated 9:38 pm, Monday, November 24, 2014


When it comes to dining and neon-lights haunts, long downtrodden downtown Schenectady has transformed itself into a network of attractions.

Saratoga Springs has been the unchallenged regional leader for pub-crawling seemingly forever. There are about a dozen watering holes squeezed into one block of Caroline Street and a dozen more on nearby streets.

Schenectady doesn't have a match for the oft-crammed Caroline bar scene, but the once-lights-out Electric City downtown has become an inviting bistro draw.

There are 20 or so establishments within blocks of each other.

Wolff's Biergarten, which opened this month, is on the Erie Boulevard strip that includes relatively new Katie O'Byrne's and Clinton's Ditch. Wolff's is too young for a track record at the gate, but the other half-dozen close-proximity places are busy hangouts.

A few doors down on Union Street at Erie is the Van Dyck, a once-death-row club rejuvenated by brothers Jack and Dennis McDonald. A parallel single block of Broadway is headed by Pinhead Susan's Pub, another McDonald brothers success.

Two more recent neighbors are 20 North Broadway and the Centre City Pub.

Next, going east off Erie on the Proctors block of State Street, there are a bunch of places that have sprung up in recent times.

Nico's Rooftop Tavern, ribbon-cut just three months ago, is the latest.

Zen Fusion Lounge, Johnny's Restaurant and Mexican Radio are other newer additions, and Bombers is a relatively new face.

That stretch of the city's main drag includes Angelo Mazzone-created Aperitivo and the older Parker Inn, which was just taken over by ultra-busy Mazzone. The reincarnated Backstage Bar is just behind Proctors.

In the extended theater district on Union Street is a cluster of restaurant/bar locations. The long-standing Manhattan Exchange if just down from newer Marotta's, Cafe Nola and the Bier Abbey.

For so very long, Schenectady ran dead last to Saratoga, Albany and Troy when it came to downtown nightlife.

Seemingly out of nowhere, the town has become a destination for many
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               hysterical naked,
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Patches' point, exactly.
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why would anyone go downtown for retail when you can go to Mohawk commons, colonie center, crossgates and yes even ROTTENdam square mall?
like I said b4......'retail malls' all but killed downtown coupled with GE's exit.

and again......I could care less......I just don't like the lucrative tax breaks while the powers that be cry poverty!!


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Marv Cermak from this mornings TU.




And the vast majority of them are causing the massive reduction in the city's tax base which cause tax bills to go up.   Tax exemptions and welfare for downtown millionaires and billionaires while the taxpayers suffer.

Saratoga may have many such businesses, but taxes are far lower, home values are far higher, AND home values are increasing.




Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Quoted from bumblethru
don't ever expect downtown to look like it did back in the GE days.
First.....GE moved out.....no disposable cash/no jobs.
Second....there was the birth of the MALLS!
Folks flooded the malls like they were the best thing since sliced bread.

I'm not that closed minded to new ideas.
I don't care if downtown was nothing but Gin Mills....or movie theaters.....or restaurants....or hotels.

I DO care how they get there....so to say.
Interest free taxpayer funded loans, tax exemptions and the back room deals...blah blah blah.



Agreed, and especially the jobs created from these tax exemptions are all welfare wage jobs, thus taxpayers foot the bill for the building of these places, then taxpayers pay the property and school taxes of the buildings, and then the taxpayers have to pay for public assistance for the workers.



Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Quoted from Alva White
Marv Cermak from this mornings TU.



And who has the time, social ambition or disposable income for this type of ENTERTAINMENT ?

They are households that apparently  no no one in this forum knows exist.  2 people 25-35 years old  making a measly 15 bucks an hour is 60 K per year. Its easy to split 14 hundred for rent and eat out.  Downtown is perfect  .

Downtown is no place for section 8 welfare baby mamas- nor most people posting here in this forum


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downtown was built for the colleges....artsy-fartsy....funny story

a friend of mine went to dinner at cafe nola, a double date...it was 'story time' on the entertainment board

she had a hard time eating because the story was 50 shades of grey but much more descriptive....along with slang terms.....
hairy girl private, wanger pen!s etc etc etc......

my friend was not necessarily appalled....they are 25years old, but was very surprised......they said they won't try 'story time' at dinner
again....other than that enjoyed their meals.


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