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DemocraticVoiceOfReason
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I beg to differ.....MFRH is going up ALL OVER TOWN....why?

so the local developers that really don't live here anymore can cash in and move away...quickly


You make these claims which I will not characterize or judge.  Yet, you have never attended a public hearing to oppose any of these projects.  In fact, I can count on one hand the number of people who have attended any of  the well announced public hearings and have even bothered to ask questions.  


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You make these claims which I will not characterize or judge.  Yet, you have never attended a public hearing to oppose any of these projects.  In fact, I can count on one hand the number of people who have attended any of  the well announced public hearings and have even bothered to ask questions.  


no one listened so I stopped.....


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this Regime has a deft ear when it comes to what the taxpayers want to say.......there are never any answers ....

just keep putting the $$$$ in their pockets and those that kiss a$$
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no one listened so I stopped.....


That statement is without any basis in fact.  

It has been my experience in attending commission meetings that its extremely, overwhelmingly rare for anyone besides the applicants or representatives of the applicants to even attend the meeting.  When the others do attend, they are given the opportunity to comment and their comments ARE taken very seriously.

The factual record bears this out.  Concerns raised in public comments kept Guildercrest/Helderberg Meadows in planning process for a few decades and forced it to go through many revisions and changes.  Concerns raised in public comments squashed the WalMart proposal for Burdeck Street and the CVS project for Four Corners. Those are just a few examples.  

The FACT is that when the public comes to public meetings and raised concerns those concerns are taken VERY seriously.


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I beg to differ.....MFRH is going up ALL OVER TOWN....why?



because the existing ones are FULL!!!

The 'youngsters' do NOT want the responsibility of maintaining a home. We hear it every single day!!!

The 'youngsters' don't want kids either.

Older seniors are downsizing and going into apartments.

Right now....there is a need.

Don't know what it will be like 10+ years from now.


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Senders, some people on the Planning Commission do listen to the majority of the public who attend the meetings.....DOV does not listen to the majority.  He cast a vote for the CVS project which was against the majority of the town residents who attended the meeting.
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Senders, some people on the Planning Commission do listen to the majority of the public who attend the meetings.....DOV does not listen to the majority.  He cast a vote for the CVS project which was against the majority of the town residents who attended the meeting.


Happen to have this quote form the Gazette article day after planning meeting:
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Commission member Ronald Severson was the only member voting against the negative resolution.
He said the retail landscape is changing and stores are requiring larger footprints.
“The thing that concerns me is that the opposition seems to be … isn’t that they are objecting it to being a retail business, but they are objecting to it being a CVS,” Severson said.
Neighborhood residents in attendance called out “no” after hearing Severson’s remark.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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it is because it's a fu(king CVS....another pharmacy for nothing....except to leave a crappy empty building in a few years whether it
be CVS or Riteaid....

having said that I guess the public voted for public healthcare which would include walmart and all the box pharmacies to be our
healthcare access, much like a commune....

and we all know what happens in communes......


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Senders, some people on the Planning Commission do listen to the majority of the public who attend the meetings.....DOV does not listen to the majority.  He cast a vote for the CVS project which was against the majority of the town residents who attended the meeting.


The vote was not for or against the project.  It was for or against a recommendation to the Town Board regarding a change of zoning.  If the zoning had been changed by the Town Board, then the actual process (site plan, etc.) to consider  the CVS project would have been taken up.  


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The vote was not for or against the project.  It was for or against a recommendation to the Town Board regarding a change of zoning.  If the zoning had been changed by the Town Board, then the actual process (site plan, etc.) to consider  the CVS project would have been taken up.  


there in lies our issue....willy-nilly planning and quick cheap shopping to fill the holes.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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DVOR you are the one who referenced it as the CVS project.  You are correct the vote was for a change of zoning....or spot zoning.  No matter what the buisness was the residents would have voiced a concern against spot zoning.  
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DVOR you are the one who referenced it as the CVS project.  You are correct the vote was for a change of zoning....or spot zoning.  No matter what the buisness was the residents would have voiced a concern against spot zoning.  


Actually, if you reread the transcripts the residents were NOT opposed to businesses along Curry Road.  They just didn't want the CVS pharmacy.  In order for their to be businesses built where those residential houses (the ones proposed for rezoning) are located along Curry Road than the property would have to be rezoned.  
So in fact, the concerns of the residents were listened to and taken into account when EACH person cast his or her vote.


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Let's try to get the thread back on track I think those folks in the new apartments need a drug store....hmmm CVS?  Maybe they could build it accross the street from the truck stop since it is zoned commercial?  Is it zoned commercial?  Then the residents can drive their Hybrids to CVS to get their antidepressants and wash it down with a late from Dunkin donuts.
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Actually, if you reread the transcripts the residents were NOT opposed to businesses along Curry Road.  They just didn't want the CVS pharmacy.  In order for their to be businesses built where those residential houses (the ones proposed for rezoning) are located along Curry Road than the property would have to be rezoned.  
So in fact, the concerns of the residents were listened to and taken into account when EACH person cast his or her vote.


Then why did the residents shout "NO" in response to your remark? Seems to me they were saying
development was ok, but just not a big box!
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Commission member Ronald Severson was the only member voting against the negative resolution.
He said the retail landscape is changing and stores are requiring larger footprints.
“The thing that concerns me is that the opposition seems to be … isn’t that they are objecting it to being a retail business, but they are objecting to it being a CVS,” Severson said.
Neighborhood residents in attendance called out “no” after hearing Severson’s remark.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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spot zoning is what Rotterdam does best.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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