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Alva White
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I thought I'd post this in case anyone might be interested. A group of folks are trying to revive neighborhood watches in Rotterdam. Seems like it's a good idea to me. It shows folks are taking more of an interest in what's going on here and are actually doing something. It also seems that many of the folks involved are of a much younger demographic, maybe late 30's early to mid 40's (I'm just guessing here folks), and becoming very vocal in "taking back our town". Many of the same people who post on other Rotterdam FB pages.

Anyway here's the link:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rotterdam-Watch/748341931898849


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SOUNDS GREAT!

then let ROTTENdam lower the cops wages/benefits.....since the residents are doing some of their work...yes?

remember...the cops that break the arms of disabled kids who won't get off the bus?


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great 5 million for RPD  - sounds like $0 would be better
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  Isn't RPD compared to say, SPD a cake job.  More bed bugs I think..
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Ya, cause no criminals use social media to case their targets .. This just makes it easier for them to see where the "watch" communities are, where theyre patrolling any particular night, and find easier targets.   Whoever set this up wasn't too bright, IMHO


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Quoted from HarryP
Ya, cause no criminals use social media to case their targets .. This just makes it easier for them to see where the "watch" communities are, where theyre patrolling any particular night, and find easier targets.   Whoever set this up wasn't too bright, IMHO


I think you're missing the  point. I would much rather see folks becoming pro-active, than sitting around pissing and moaning about how they're being victimized. You have to start somewhere. And if the criminals do read social media and then avoid the areas with "watches", and move to another area, well didn't the one "watch" that was set up accomplish what they set out to do? Then it would be incumbent upon the next neighborhood to get involved. And if each neighborhood in turn were to answer the "call to arms", the criminals who you suggest "use social media" to "case their targets" would see that the entire town is under "citizen watch" and avoid these areas.

Once again, to me this is a positive step in the right direction. At least somebody's trying.

The bigger question for me would be how committed are folks to be involved in "Neighborhood watches"? Will they keep it up, or will the interest and enthusiasm diminish with time?


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IF criminals watch social media? OF COURSE they do.....they are called politicians

and yes, even the everyday criminal has facebook and smartphones and google......

criminals aren't stupid


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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Two words.  George Zimmerman.

Let the police handle it.


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Harry P exactly..........since the debate on guns.....many have been bought.......sometimes I wear a "hoodie"....it's pink.....will that make a difference

if some trigger happy "GEORGE" spots me and thinks it's suspicious if I am even in my yard walking my dog????....

The police get the job done....more than you bloggers think.....BUT......shoot first ...ask questions later seems to be the motto in America these days.
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The problem is the police DON'T handle everything. Nor can they patrol every square inch of town all the time. I read all the time of wanting to eliminate or down size the dept. in town. Then what? You can't have it both ways. That's why it's important to be aware of what's going on in your neighborhood. And I don't think anyone in support of Neighborhood Watches is in favor of vigilantism. They're merely there to as the term implies "watch their neighborhoods" and REPORT suspicious activity. What's wrong with that?


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I can give an example of how being watchful and aware of your neighborhood works. From my apartment I have a good view of the parking lot. I know most of the the people that live here, and their vehicles. There have been occasions over the years where I have seen strangers in the lot either using or selling drugs. I have notified the RPD on these occasions, and within minutes they have shown up to catch the culprits in the act. This is what I'm talking about.


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dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for
               an angry fix,"


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the zimmerman issue happened in a gated community....is Rotterdam a gated community?

living in a gated community automatically makes folks feel 'unsafe'.....why a gated community? because there are issues.....

schenectady uses 'camera gates'......

it's very bizarre.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Quoted from senders
the zimmerman issue happened in a gated community....is Rotterdam a gated community?

living in a gated community automatically makes folks feel 'unsafe'.....why a gated community? because there are issues.....

schenectady uses 'camera gates'......

it's very bizarre.....


LIKE


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The overwhelming majority of gated communities are very safe.  

As for Neighborhood Watch, I think it is a great idea.  People should know their neighbors and keep an eye out for one another.


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The overwhelming majority of gated communities are very safe.  

As for Neighborhood Watch, I think it is a great idea.  People should know their neighbors and keep an eye out for one another.


that's not what I said.....

I said WHY gated communities?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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