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Buy a slip n slide.
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if a pool is OVER 48" high......nothing more is needed than a child lock ladder!!!

a small child or an animal would be really hard pressed to climb in.....DUH!!

i also believe there are laws against trespassing.....yes?

and what if your entire back yard has a 4' chain link fence around it and there is a 5' pool smack dab in the middle?

our cousin has an inground pool in their back  yard with a 4' fence around it....chain link. ya think ya can climb it?.........YUP!

where were some of these law makers/enforcers when brains were being handed out?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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must be the "PATROL" team.....narcs....they go around looking for anything and everything....are there any one like that on this site??

hey...ya never know....and must be they have no life but to make others miserable like theirs...
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Illegal Police Department Activity Threaten to Bankrupt Counties Nationwide

Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:09
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(Before It's News)

The Truth Behind The News

susanne_posel_news_ police-state-002Susanne Posel
Occupy Corporatism
February 7, 2013


Local police departments (LPDs) across the nation are incorporated as specialized non-profits. Most LPDs are known to the Secretary of State in their respective state as an association which gives the impression to the average citizen that this is a union. However this is not the case.

The LPDs are contracted by the City Council to preform police services and securitize the city they are hired in. This is the exchange of a local government hiring a private security firm to stabilize the local population and generate revenue for the city through tickets, arrests and recording infractions. However, this does not include upholding local laws, as the County Sheriff’s Office is elected to take charge of.

The problem with this system is that the LPDs, being corporations, are subject to corporate law. And corporations fall into dissolution (i.e. the termination of the corporation) for various reasons quite often. When it is the LPD that dissolves; this becomes a question of legal authority over the citizens by the hired private security firm known as the LPD.

Corporations that dissolve are not allowed by law to conduct business. These same rules apply to the LPD that is actually a corporation hired by the local government or city council to preform police services.

For example, in the State of Oregon, over 12 LPDs are in dissolution. On the Secretary of State website, when a LPD is dissolved it is classified as “INA” or inactive. This includes LPDs in the following cities:

• Beaverton
• Canby
• Charleston
• Eugene
• Gresham
• King County
• Lake Oswego
• Lebanon
• Portland
• Sherwood
• Weston

According to corporate law, if a corporation dissolves, it must withdraw as a business entity. This means that once the LPD is dissolved, they cannot continue to perform police services for the city in which they were hired.

And in fact, should this be brought to the public, it might be common place (as it is in the State of Oregon) that LPDs are in dissolution and not legally allowed to conduct police services because they lack legal authority as a dissolved corporation.

It also stands that the local governments that are privy to this information would be involved in not only egregious corruption but are knowingly misleading the citizens of their towns and cities. Once the LPD is dissolved, from the date of dissolution, any arrest, ticket, or police service preformed is now an illegal act. It is tantamount to a citizen impersonating a police officer which as serious legal ramifications.

Should citizens become aware of this fact in their city – that their LPD is a corporation that has dissolved and is continuing to operate as if they have legal right to do so – there would be justified legal recourse for every citizen who had been arrested, jailed, forced to pay a ticket of any kind and forced to appear in municipal court under those circumstances (including court costs, attorney’s fees and fees attributed by the court).

In 2012, Louis F. Quijas, Assistant Secretary of the Office for State and Local Law Enforcement (OSLLE), for the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) explained the purpose of the OSLLE as a front “office that provided coordination and partnership with state, local, and tribal law enforcement.”

The OSLLE was recommended by the 9/11 Commission. It was created to “lead the coordination of DHS-wide policies relating to state, local, and tribal law enforcement’s role in preventing acts of terrorism and to serve as the primary liaison between non-Federal law enforcement agencies across the country and the Department.”

Intelligence is disseminated through OSLLE to LPDs or “non-Federal law enforcement partners” to keep information flowing through initiatives such as the “If You See Something, Say Something™”, the Blue Campaign, the Nationwide Suspicious Activity Reporting (SAR) Initiative (NSI), and the Department’s efforts in Countering Violent Extremism.

OSLLE consistently works with LPDs on education, actionable information, operations and intelligence for the purpose of their part in the operations of the DHS with regard to keeping “our homeland safe”.

OSLLE also works as a liaison between LPDs to maintain DHS leadership and considerations of “issues, concerns, and requirements of state, local, and tribal law enforcement during budget, grant, and policy development processes.”

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) upholds relationships with LPDs for the purposes of and participation with National Preparedness Grant Program that began this year.

To ensure that local police departments continue to meet the requirements of training from DHS, officers regularly attend the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers (FLETC) in Glynco, Georgia.

LPDs are focused through OSLLE and DHS to “remain vigilant and to protect our communities from all threats, whether terrorism or other criminal activities” as DHS expands its control over local law enforcement and the communities they oversee.

As stated in the DHS directive from the Office for State and Local Law Enforcement (SLLE), the assistant Secretary for SLLE has “the primary official responsible for leading the coordination of Department-wide policies related to the role of state, tribal, and local law enforcement in preventing, preparing for, protecting against, and responding to natural disasters, acts of terrorism and other man- made disasters within the US.”

This directive also sets guidelines of advocacy for DHS by the LPDs. Authorization of DHS to take over LPDs is given in Title 6 of the United States Code, Section 607, “Terrorism prevention”.

In 2008, the Bureau of Justice Statistics stated that LPD “make up more than two-thirds of the 18,000 state and local law enforcement agencies in the US” which translates to an estimated 12,501 law enforcement agencies. Of those LPDs, there are more than 461,000 sworn officers.

Last year President Obama signed an executive order (EO) that created the White House Homeland Security Partnership Council and Steering Committee which tied DHS to local partnerships, federal and private institutions “to address homeland security challenges.”

Members of the Steering Committee include:

• Department of State
• Department of US Treasury
• Department of Defense
• Department of Justice
• Department of Transportation
• Department of Veterans Affairs
• The Federal Bureau of Investigations

In 2011, Congress encouraged private sector “police companies” to replace law enforcement on the State and local level by coercing a new police protection insurance that would tack on a fee to citizens for the use of “police protection”.

This move was justified by having citizens pay for the police to be called to scenes as a “communal service” that is contractual just as any other service or good is paid for. As a customer, the citizen would tell 911 dispatch their insurance information for payment purposes to be billed after the police were deployed to the scene, or services were rendered.

Turning LPDs into private security firms that provide services to the public was the scheme behind privatizing law enforcement.

Under state government contract, private security firms preform law enforcement services. With legislative bodies on both the state and Congressional level supporting this change, private corporations enter into contractual agreements with city councils to provide armed security patrol. Just as a rent-a-cop is hired to secure private property, local police departments are masked rent-a-cops that were hired by local government to secure their city.

This fact has been hidden from public scrutiny and has added to the blending of social perception of what the police are and what they do so that police services are able to function without question. At the same time, citizens are expected to pay fees for these “services” that were once inherent to life in a structured town or city.

In early 2012, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) released a report entitled “Homeland Security and Intelligence: Next Steps in Evolving the Mission” which outlined in part on how to redirect efforts of the federal government from international terrorism toward home-grown terrorists and build a DHS-controlled police force agency that would control all cities and towns through the use of local police departments.

DHS maintains that “the threat grows more localized” which necessitates the militarization of local police in major cities in the US and the training of staff from local agencies to make sure that oversight is restricted to the federal government.

Private corporations have been parading as public servants policing cities and towns across America without the knowledge of the average citizen for quite some time. Although they wear the same badges as LPDs of the past, these private security firms are not there to uphold peace or enforce any laws and city ordinances. Just like any other corporation, they seek out opportunities to collect revenue for the benefit of the city that hired them.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I'm not against keeping very young children safe, but don't the vast majority of residential drownings of children occur at home? I don't know if stricter laws have any effect.
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Quoted from Madam X
I'm not against keeping very young children safe, but don't the vast majority of residential drownings of children occur at home? I don't know if stricter laws have any effect.


yup...especially at hollywood rich folks homes that have nannys and the like....so you know what the government can do...

GET THE FU(K OFF MY BACK AND MIND YOUR BUSINESS......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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put a fence around the pond in Central Park


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
put a fence around the pond in Central Park


You can't generate revenue for code violations on municiple property.  


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Dailgazette

Opinion


Pool safety should be responsibility of parents not gov’t

Rotterdam town Supervisor Harry Buffardi is quoted as saying he’d “be hard pressed to answer” a question regarding non-enforcement of state regulations of infl atable swimming pools [Aug. 15 Gazette]. Let me suggest a few points. The purchase of a $249 swimming pool should not be saddled with $850 worth of home improvements.
   The advantage of affordable backyard swimming pools is that it provides children with an activity that is in their own backyards, and an opportunity to become acquainted with the enjoyments of water and knowledgeable about its dangers, a knowledge best learned close to home rather than at some pond or the river.
   Of course, there are some benefi ts to addressing safety concerns, but politicians, whether at the state or local level fail to give consideration to the benefits of freedom from government playing the role of “nanny.” That is a parents’ responsibility, a responsibility to teach children to understand the many dangers they face and the responsibility to teach respect for the property rights of others.
   Make it difficult, costly, and unlikely that people will provide such opportunities and you marginalize those families with limited means to do so. and that is discriminatory to the individual and the community.
   WILLIAM P. MCMILLEN
   Delmar The writer is vice chairman of the Capital District Chapter of the Libertarian Party of New York.
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well written......
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The new regulations were probably enacted at the request of the insurance companies, so people will just have to get over it. What they say goes. God forbid somebody's kid goes in your yard and gets hurt in your wading pool, and your insurance company has to defend you. They might actually have togive you something for all the money you give them.
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Quoted from Madam X
The new regulations were probably enacted at the request of the insurance companies, so people will just have to get over it. What they say goes. God forbid somebody's kid goes in your yard and gets hurt in your wading pool, and your insurance company has to defend you. They might actually have togive you something for all the money you give them.


BINGO!!!!

BIG LOBBIES.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from Madam X
The new regulations were probably enacted at the request of the insurance companies, so people will just have to get over it. What they say goes. God forbid somebody's kid goes in your yard and gets hurt in your wading pool, and your insurance company has to defend you. They might actually have togive you something for all the money you give them.


You don't like your corporate fascist slave owners?  Don't you know you are supposed to cheer when government passes legislation sold on saving the peasants pennies while making your slave masters millions in profit?  That's called "American exceptionalism".


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