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Catholic League Poised To Go To War With Obama Over Mandatory Birth Control Payments
Donohue Says 70 Million Of His Voters Ready To Alter Presidential Election

February 6, 2012 7:44 PM


NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Catholic leaders upped the ante Monday, threatening to challenge the Obama administration over a provision of the new health care law that would require all employers, including religious institutions, to pay for birth control.

As CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer reports, it could affect the presidential elections.

Catholic leaders are furious and determined to harness the voting power of the nation’s 70 million Catholic voters to stop a provision of President Barack Obama’s new heath car reform bill that will force Catholic schools, hospitals and charities to buy birth control pills, abortion-producing drugs and sterilization coverage for their employees...................................>>>>....................>>>>..................http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....th-control-payments/
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One problem... The majority of Catholics practice birth control and approve of legal abortion.  I wouldn't count on those
70 million Catholic votes... especially since many of them will benefit by this program.
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Leave it to Tom to be the first to comment against the Catholic Church


“There's a term for Obama - not two terms.” – Kimmel.

Vivat Jesus
Knights of Columbus, Fourth Degree
In Him, all things are possible
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the 'catholic church' came out of the ROMAN Catholic church.....affecting elections for a millenia......

history of procreation is "make more of us so we outnumber them"


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Well.........this is america and everyone has a voice including the catholics! And when it comes to folks and their freedoms and rights........they will rally!! And like senders said.......the catholic church aka roman catholic church has been influencing governments for ions!! This should be nothing new to those who know their history.


If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
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Every Sperm is Sacred

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At least Obama has everybody polarized on a social issue.  Keeps people from talking about the economy and his record.  Mission Accomplished!  Americans are easily distracted by manufactured drama.  

Religion and sex, the two things liberals believe government should be separate from.  Except when they want to create a political carnival as a distraction.


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Fred Dicker had a good guest on this morning who spoke about this very issue.  President Obama has riled up Catholic voters and risks alienating them.   The Catholic vote has provided the margin of victory in some key "swing states" in recent elections.   For example, Ronald Reagan won New York in 1980 and 1984 due to his garnering strong support among "Reagan Democrats" (many of whom are Catholics).   In 2012, many of these "Reagan Democrats" may become  "Santorum Democrats" or even - begrudgingly - "Romney Democrats".  

My prediction is that Rick Santorum WILL be on the Republican national ticket in November  - either in the #1 or #2 spot.   I will further predict that social issues will be just as crucial as the economy in the fall -------- with the net result that the GOP will win key states like Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and New Jersey.  And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that such a result will mean a Republican in the White House on January 20, 2013.


“And yet our opponents tell us not to interfere with abortion. They tell us not to impose our morality on those who wish to allow or participate in the taking of the life of infants before birth. Yet no one calls it imposing morality to prohibit the taking of life after a child is born. We’re told about a woman’s right to control her own body. But doesn’t the unborn child have a higher right, and that is to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?” – Ronald Reagan
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From The Nation’s Largest Catholic University(DePaul University):
" We Offer ‘A Prescription Contraceptive Benefit",
Other Catholic colleges and hospitals, including Georgetown and the six former Caritas Christi Catholic hospitals in
Massachusetts, also offer birth control benefits.

Twenty-eight states already require employers, including most religiously affiliated institutions, to cover contraception
in their health plans. The only change is that now they must cover the full cost.


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From The Nation’s Largest Catholic University(DePaul University):
" We Offer ‘A Prescription Contraceptive Benefit",
Other Catholic colleges and hospitals, including Georgetown and the six former Caritas Christi Catholic hospitals in
Massachusetts, also offer birth control benefits.

Twenty-eight states already require employers, including most religiously affiliated institutions, to cover contraception
in their health plans. The only change is that now they must cover the full cost.




So I suppose if 28 states passed laws requiring Jewish people to eat pork and Hindus to eat beef -- you would be ok with that -- because after all a majority of states require it   ???????????????????????????????


“And yet our opponents tell us not to interfere with abortion. They tell us not to impose our morality on those who wish to allow or participate in the taking of the life of infants before birth. Yet no one calls it imposing morality to prohibit the taking of life after a child is born. We’re told about a woman’s right to control her own body. But doesn’t the unborn child have a higher right, and that is to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?” – Ronald Reagan
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So I suppose if 28 states passed laws requiring Jewish people to eat pork and Hindus to eat beef -- you would be ok with that -- because after all a majority of states require it   ???????????????????????????????


NO one is "requiring Jews to eat pork, Hindus to eat beef, or Catholics to use Birth Control" (although the majority of
Catholics already do).
This is a requirement for all employers requiring a common benefit already offered by many Catholic employers,
to cover birth control drugs.  NO one is forced to eat pork, beef or use birth control, no matter how much you
wish they were.
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NO one is "requiring Jews to eat pork, Hindus to eat beef, or Catholics to use Birth Control" (although the majority of Catholics already do). This is a requirement for all employers requiring a common benefit already offered by many Catholic employers, to cover birth control drugs.  NO one is forced to eat pork, beef or use birth control, no matter how much you wish they were.


How about a federal law forcing Kosher Deili's to sell non Kosher meats?  After all, if the majority of Jewish people don't eat Kosher, might as well mandate they offer non kosher.  Nobody is forcing the customers to eat non kosher, but in fairness, it should be offered.

How about mandating Halal meat markets sell non-halal meat?  Is that ok?


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How about a federal law forcing Kosher Deili's to sell non Kosher meats?  


Ummm... Someone tell Cicero that this law pertains to health insurance regulations... Not Kosher products.
(He's so easily confused)  

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Ummm... Someone tell Cicero that this law pertains to health insurance regulations... Not Kosher products.
(He's so easily confused)  


No, it's about forcing an organization to offer a product that is not in line with their church doctrine.  It is about FREEDOM.  Halal and Kosher markets offer a prodcut and run their business based on religious doctrine, why not force them to conform to secular government standards and offer non-kosher and non-halal foods?   The line keeps on moving, as the government keeps on encroaching...and this time it's disquised as "women's health".  

The totalitarians march on........


A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier.
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Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
~ H. L. Mencken

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