Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

If he is driving his personal vehicle and is involved in an accident, his personal auto insurance policy would cover it  (his damages and if he is personally sued) ----  I suppose that an attorney might try to sue the city, too ....  but that would be a stretch.  

If the agreement is that the Government is reimbursing him for use of his vehcile, I believe his personal insurance is the first "collectible", before the Government as an insurer micht be considred liable.  Typically, if he is being reimbursed, he is also required to maintain a certain level of coverage.

I agree with Visitor.  Besides, it is perfectly legal.   There are many people who retire from private sector jobs and start a second career in the private sector WHILE COLLECTING A PENSION.    Many service men and women work long enough to retire from the military and then work in either the public or private sector -- should they be vilified for "double dipping" ?

If anyone doesn't like it, they could petition and work to have the law changed.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I agree with Visitor.  Besides, it is perfectly legal.   There are many people who retire from private sector jobs and start a second career in the private sector WHILE COLLECTING A PENSION.    Many service men and women work long enough to retire from the military and then work in either the public or private sector -- should they be vilified for "double dipping" ?

If anyone doesn't like it, they could petition and work to have the law changed.

Obviously DV does NOT know that NO one is FORCED, no one has money STOELN from them to pay private pensions!!!!!!!!!!    If I don't that someone in the private sector is double dipping, etc, then I can make a choice to not buy stock in the company, or if I have stock I can get the money out of it.  I can choose not to buy some products, etc.

YOU, DV, you have proven once again that you have not nor have ever been a taxpayer because you have no clue whatsoever about the financial burdens of having your money STOLEN from you by an elected official who wants to get paid MORE THAN THREE TIMES what the typical househole income is of the people who have the money stolen from them!!!!!!!

Yes, unfortunately the law currenly provides for it.   However, McC could have publicly announced BEFORE the election that he would CHOOSE to double dip.   But he preferred to keep it a secret---WHY

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Hugh Farley is a TRIPLE DIPPER but the  teabagger/NNTP nayboob Republicans won't say a word against that.
They (nayboobs) are all hypocrites.

And you can provide the documentation, the links to official websites to prove this and how much, yes?

If the taxpayer has a say in it, by means of the elective process, and it does not cost the taxpayer anymore than it would to pay anyone else as Mayor - I do not think this is the double dipping scenario.

They had an election it was inconclusive so the decision was made by the NYS Supreme Court. When the US Supreme Court selected George W. Bush to be 43rd President the same people were up in arms. Where are they now? Because you can do it {which remains to be seen} doesn't mean it's right to do it.

benny

so are yo saying that someone who has earned a pension should never run for office?

Or are you arguing that they should forego their pension? (Because that would mean that they have to pay for the right to run for elective office.)

Maybe a person who draws a Government pension, then get another Government paid job, or runs for office and is awarded a job that is paid for by the Government, should have his pension suspended until he leaves office or retires from the other job, and then future pension benefits should be based on the higher of the two but not both?  Not sure anything like this would ever work, but I've seen too many that leave governemnt job, draw a pension, only to turn around and take another Government paid job, draw salary and pension...and then when they leave second job get a second pension!!!!

This is entirely illustrative of why the State of New York and most of its municipalities will be bankrupt within 10-15 years. We can kick the can down the road as long as we wish but it is only making the ensuing fiscal catastrophe worse. A high school grad making 105k retiring at 55 with a fully funded pension is untenable in any private sector model by a factor of two or three. Private sector producers have been fleeing for greener pastures. This will continue. The public employees will have one hell of a time getting blood out of the stone that is old people and welfare people. It will be comical but sad to watch from North Carolina or Arizona. The death knell will sound the day the financial capital of the world moves to Dallas, Texas. The events of 9-11 slowed that possibility down by a decade. Once that event is ancient history, the sentimental reason for Wall St to remain a New York institution will no longer have sway. Around 2025-30, expect to see this State fully financially disintegrate. There is no compromise, common sense or sense of understanding the grave nature of the issue by the politicians  or public sector unions; and the majority of the electorate. They are dumbed down and living in the ether, or the rarified air of security that a public paycheck produces.

Quoted from joebxr

Maybe a person who draws a Government pension, then get another Government paid job, or runs for office and is awarded a job that is paid for by the Government, should have his pension suspended until he leaves office or retires from the other job, and then future pension benefits should be based on the higher of the two but not both?  Not sure anything like this would ever work, but I've seen too many that leave governemnt job, draw a pension, only to turn around and take another Government paid job, draw salary and pension...and then when they leave second job get a second pension!!!!

I actually agree with you on your suggestion -- the suspending the pension part -- now, the problem .. how would we get or should I say what are the chances that the State Legislature would actually pass your idea into law ?????????????????

benny

so are yo saying that someone who has earned a pension should never run for office?

Or are you arguing that they should forego their pension? (Because that would mean that they have to pay for the right to run for elective office.)

Quoted from visitor

benny

so are yo saying that someone who has earned a pension should never run for office?

Or are you arguing that they should forego their pension? (Because that would mean that they have to pay for the right to run for elective office.)

I think the idiot citizens that work in the private sector need to realize that the people they elect to make the rules are making the rules for their benefit.  The professional bureaucrats are the leeches sucking the life blood out of those who wake up every morning and produce and add to the GDP.  

HOW LONG CAN THE ELECTORATE LIE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL WHILE THE COUNTRY DRIVES OFF THE CLIFF?  

These party loyalists are drunk with power and could give two shits about the taxpaying resident.  They believe they are entitled to a better living than those they are elected to represent, and they are not shy about wielding their power right in front of the residents because they know they are too stupid to understand how they are being manipulated.

The citizens of this country need to develop a healthy suspicion and even disdain toward the bureaucrats that make a living off of their money.  That is the only solution to this double, triple and quadruple dipping by the professional bureaucrat.

sorry for the repeat posts

joebxr - my point is that there is a difference between an el;cted official and someone getting appointed to a goverment job.  taxpayers have a choice in the former, not the latter.  and it should never cost the taxpayer more than it would have if someone without a pension was elected mayor.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I actually agree with you on your suggestion -- the suspending the pension part -- now, the problem .. how would we get or should I say what are the chances that the State Legislature would actually pass your idea into law ?????????????????

That's the problem...it would never pass becuase it is the same individuals who are milking the system that make the rules!

cicero

and the privatre sector is blameless for the economic mess we're in?