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GrahamBonnet
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Can someone post the original editorial from the crappo Gazette? I want to see what the democrap hack writers in the editorial department wrote, exactly. The poor man lost his home and is elderly. To scapegoat him is a disgrace. The records could be in the Historical Society (controlled by DEMOCRAPS) and/or the town historian's house (DEMOCRAP) or in Town Hall (controlled by DEMOCRAPS) but this poor guy gets the blame because after they sacked him the current historian never went to pick them up!


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here it is GB...ya just had to google it............



http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2011/sep/08/908_prinrce/
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Editorial: Small price to pay for preserving history
Thursday, September 8, 2011


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In hindsight, it’s easy to say that municipalities like the town of Rotterdam and Schoharie County could have done a better job protecting their historic artifacts and court records from the ravages of Hurricane Irene. Still, it needs to be said, because even though serious floods are relatively rare in these parts, they and other natural disasters, as well as calamities like fires do occur from time to time. If these important objects  —   some of which are hundreds of years old —  are to survive for the benefit of future generations, proper precautions must be taken.
It’s always possible to rebuild a house or an office lost to a flood or fire, but as the Rotterdam Junction woman lamented in Wednesday’s front-page story, “the hardest thing is ... the stuff I can’t ever replace.” For her, it was baby pictures. For the town of Rotterdam, it is the photographs and historic papers about Rotterdam Junction collected over the last 70 years by town historian Dick Whalen. For Schoharie County, it was a basement full of books and court papers. The pictures and papers told stories and provided documentation —  of a family’s history, a town’s events, a judicial system’s casework.
All were destroyed, or so heavily damaged by the flood, that it will require a Herculean effort —  and a bundle of money —  to restore them. Certainly a lot more effort and money than it would have taken to store them safely to begin with.
Admittedly, people who aren’t ardent history buffs have a tendency to take things like old books, papers and photos for granted. They may not use them or look at them regularly, and so may forget they exist. Or they may appreciate them but simply run out of room to store them where they’re out of harm’s way. Or they may not realize, given the infrequency of storms like Irene, just how devastating one can be.
And so these irreplaceable photos, papers and records get put in some out-of-the-way place —  more often than not a basement or an attic — that may be convenient at the time  but just so happens to be the first place affected in a serious flood or fire.
Undoubtedly, more horror stories will be coming to light in the weeks ahead. They should serve as reminders to the municipalities, organizations and, yes, individuals who save things with historic value but drop the ball when it comes to protecting them. Calamities like the one provided by Irene don’t occur very often —  thank God —  but no one can predict when they will or how severe they’ll be. And since it costs relatively little to guard against damage, doesn’t it make sense to do so?


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Perhaps we should all call the current historian, as well as town board and demand answers ...
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Since Mr. Whalen's private collection seems to be in the hands of the Schenectady County Historical Society --- the organization that he had indicated to me 10 months ago would receive his private collection --- than there really is no issue.  The only people who tried to make it an issue were the nattering nayboobs of negativity.

Mr. Del Gallo mispoke when he said that ALL of the town's papers and historical material were lost.  The town's historical papers and artifacts are and always have been quite safe at town hall and the senior center.

For the record, I do not subscribe to the belief that the Town Historian should keep the town's historical records and artifacts at a personal residence -- that is why I do not keep any of those items in my home.   The best place to keep the town's collection  (I am not speaking of personal collections) is on town property --- and the town does need look into setting aside an appropriate space to store and allow public exhibits of its historical papers and artifacts.  


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For the record, I do not subscribe to the belief that the Town Historian should keep the town's historical records and artifacts at a personal residence -- that is why I do not keep any of those items in my home.   The best place to keep the town's collection  (I am not speaking of personal collections) is on town property --- and the town does need look into setting aside an appropriate space to store and allow public exhibits of its historical papers and artifacts.  


But it IS ok to keep official Town Parks Commission paperwork at your own private residence - as you've indicated that you've done in the past?
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But it IS ok to keep official Town Parks Commission paperwork at your own private residence - as you've indicated that you've done in the past?



Obviously, you are fishing again --- trying to make an issue where none exists --- if you want an answer to your question ... speak to my attorney.


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Obviously, you are fishing again --- trying to make an issue where none exists --- if you want an answer to your question ... speak to my attorney.


Please provide his name and phone number
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Please provide his name and phone number


I am under no obligation to answer any questions that you post here or ask anywhere else for that matter.


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I am under no obligation to answer any questions that you post here or ask anywhere else for that matter.


You said "speak to my attorney" - how can I do that if you refuse to provide their name?

My attorney is Rita Topetta ... please have yours contact mine.
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You said "speak to my attorney" - how can I do that if you refuse to provide their name?

My attorney is Rita Topetta ... please have yours contact mine.


Actually .. since it has to do with a commission of the town -- you may direct your legal question to the town attorney.

There is NO local, state or federal law that forbids a member of a commission from maintaining HIS COPIES of commission materials in his private residence.   Obviously, you are just being an a** and trying to create an issue where none exists.   Pursue it if you want - but my guess is that you are too much of coward and a sleazeball to show yourself in broad day light.


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Thanks for aswering my questions DVOR.
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Thanks for aswering my questions DVOR.


You are welcome.  Obviously, everyone is upset that the collection was damaged -- but it is in the hands of persons who can clean it up/restore it.

The Schenectady County Historical Society has a budget and a staff and connections to do that kind of work.  The Town Historian has no budget to do that kind of work (cleaning and restoring water and mud damaged papers and artifacts).


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The Town Historian has no budget to do that kind of work (cleaning and restoring water and mud damaged papers and artifacts).


Obviously if the town historian had a taxing district with a staff and a budget that could handle these things, we wouldn't have lost these historic materials. Let's see if we can get a separate taxing district for a town historian department.  That should be good for an additional 10 to 12 government employees.  


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Well perhaps it is a blessing that this historical material is destroyed for rotterdam. Now rotterdamians won't be reminded of how nice their town 'once' was. They will think it was always a sh!thole.

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It is utterly ludicrous for Cicero to propose a special tax district for the Town Historian.  A tax district is perfectly appropriate to fund a public safety entity like REMS .. and I still support a tax district for REMS.  

As for the Town Historian and funding that -- I have a proposal -- that I will present to the new administration between Election Day and January 1, 2012.


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