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Quoted from biaggio
Don't recall cuomo being there ( junction )..actually he wasn't...leaders don't wait be to be told....they find solutions to problems and create their own outline...politicians show up and do NOTHING....sorry but he is a Do nothing politician...NO LEADER


You right, Cuomo was in Schoharie...Either way, to your point of the FDG criticism(and believe me, he deserves a lot) just not in this instance.  What the victims in the Junction DIDN'T need is a bunch of bureaucrats breathing down their necks and getting in the way with government form after government form for the victims to fill out, so another layer of bureaucrats could process and approve the forms, then promise that sometime in the future, somebody from government will send you a check and solve your problems.  

In this case, I believe FDG did EXACTLY what was needed in the Junction.  He is out there directly responding to the IMMEDIATE crisis facing those people and acted as the field general, orchestrating efforts and private resources to begin the cleanup and digging trenches to drain water out of basements, and using dump trucks to haul away debris.  

This was an EPIC FLOOD, FDG sitting in Town Hall making rounds of calls and waiting for government agencies to respond would have been foolish.  Did you see the extent of the damage cause by Irene across the northeast?  Resources were scarce, the start of this cleanup would have taken weeks if FDG was to organize with state and federal agencies.  

It is my opinion that FDG may have gotten this one right.


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You right, Cuomo was in Schoharie...Either way, to your point of the FDG criticism(and believe me, he deserves a lot) just not in this instance.  What the victims in the Junction DIDN'T need is a bunch of bureaucrats breathing down their necks and getting in the way with government form after government form for the victims to fill out, so another layer of bureaucrats could process and approve the forms, then promise that sometime in the future, somebody from government will send you a check and solve your problems.  

In this case, I believe FDG did EXACTLY what was needed in the Junction.  He is out there directly responding to the IMMEDIATE crisis facing those people and acted as the field general, orchestrating efforts and private resources to begin the cleanup and digging trenches to drain water out of basements, and using dump trucks to haul away debris.  

This was an EPIC FLOOD, FDG sitting in Town Hall making rounds of calls and waiting for government agencies to respond would have been foolish.  Did you see the extent of the damage cause by Irene across the northeast?  Resources were scarce, the start of this cleanup would have taken weeks if FDG was to organize with state and federal agencies.  

It is my opinion that FDG may have gotten this one right.


I agree 100%!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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You right, Cuomo was in Schoharie...Either way, to your point of the FDG criticism(and believe me, he deserves a lot) just not in this instance.  What the victims in the Junction DIDN'T need is a bunch of bureaucrats breathing down their necks and getting in the way with government form after government form for the victims to fill out, so another layer of bureaucrats could process and approve the forms, then promise that sometime in the future, somebody from government will send you a check and solve your problems.  

In this case, I believe FDG did EXACTLY what was needed in the Junction.  He is out there directly responding to the IMMEDIATE crisis facing those people and acted as the field general, orchestrating efforts and private resources to begin the cleanup and digging trenches to drain water out of basements, and using dump trucks to haul away debris.  

This was an EPIC FLOOD, FDG sitting in Town Hall making rounds of calls and waiting for government agencies to respond would have been foolish.  Did you see the extent of the damage cause by Irene across the northeast?  Resources were scarce, the start of this cleanup would have taken weeks if FDG was to organize with state and federal agencies.  

It is my opinion that FDG may have gotten this one right.


I disagree

having "TOWN" government tell you how to navigate the "TOWN'S" process for turning on electricty, and gas so that you may invest in
your home is not breathing down your neck,  its not like the homeowner can whip out the town code down there on their home
computers for the answers - the equipment is in the Fu(kin landfill

print up some info and go door to door  - what could the handouts cost a $1 a home

our elected leaders have no problem going door to door with printed material to get elected everywhere else in town

it apears that "town" business falls outside the scope of the FD's, FEMA tasks

as for the big organization the volunteer FD is kicking a$$ and taking names and dont forget the Ladies Aux, We Are Schalmont

It took FDG till Monday to dig a hole, dust off the fired dough stand and have the "unplugger" sitting in a comfy chair smoking a cig ?

and IMMEDIATE where was he Fri, Sat and Sun - that cowboy was a little late on the draw



dont believe me?

get down there and ask questions of the homeowners and their friends with no power who are busting their a$$' to not be a burden on your a$$





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I disagree

having "TOWN" government tell you how to navigate the "TOWN'S" process for turning on electricty, and gas so that you may invest in
your home is not breathing down your neck,  its not like the homeowner can whip out the town code down there on their home
computers for the answers - the equipment is in the Fu(kin landfill

and IMMEDIATE where was he Fri, Sat and Sun - that cowboy was a little late on the draw

dont believe me?

get down there and ask questions of the homeowners and their friends with no power who are busting their a$$' to not be a burden on your a$$


People that live in the Junction are waiting for a flyer to be handed to them, to tell them what to do next and what the town code is?

Now I know people have become dependent on the computer, but there is a thing called the blue pages and a cell phone and there is a Public Works Department that can answer those questions.

I think handing out flyers would be a redundancy of services.

I understand people that work at Town Hall don’t like FDG and in some cases for good reasons...But I think criticizing him in his response to the biggest natural disaster Rotterdam has seen in a generation is misdirected anger.

Flyers??  If I'm a$$hole deep in water standing in my kitchen, I'm not waiting around for an info flyers to tell me what needs to be done.


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Kinda like when jdago made those robo calls. Instructing those who need FEMA on how to get in touch with them. Every single person/family that needs FEMA does not have power or a phone line. So who the hell was she calling??? DUH!

How was the last hurricane handled???????????????

Folks are hurting and understandably so..........but we need to be realistic here?

It is more then understandable that these victims of this flood are overwhelmed to say the least. And perhaps this is a lesson learned....we need to be prepared for OURSELVES.
I agree that fdg deserves criticism on other issues............but on this one?............NAH!!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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In my opinion, immediately after a major disaster, it is the role of local government to establish and staff a command center from which recovery and relief efforts can be coordinated.  Local government leaders who are closest to those people impacted by the disaster must communicate needed assistance to higher levels of government (county, state and federal agencies) and non-profit organizations such as the American Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc., and support the logistics of getting aid to those who need it.  The local government must ensure that law and order is maintained (local police departments with the assistance of the NYS Police and National Guard if warranted and requested), provide for emergency services (fire, medical), and maintain two way communication with those impacted.

I don't know that our elected leaders need to make press appearances in the areas unless it somehow results in aid being delivered more quickly.  There are department heads who should coordinate and direct the efforts on the ground and report their findings and their needs back to the command center
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In my opinion, immediately after a major disaster, it is the role of local government to establish and staff a command center from which recovery and relief efforts can be coordinated.  Local government leaders who are closest to those people impacted by the disaster must communicate needed assistance to higher levels of government (county, state and federal agencies) and non-profit organizations such as the American Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc., and support the logistics of getting aid to those who need it.  The local government must ensure that law and order is maintained (local police departments with the assistance of the NYS Police and National Guard if warranted and requested), provide for emergency services (fire, medical), and maintain two way communication with those impacted.

I don't know that our elected leaders need to make press appearances in the areas unless it somehow results in aid being delivered more quickly.  There are department heads who should coordinate and direct the efforts on the ground and report their findings and their needs back to the command center


Why don't you go swimming at the local sewer plant and hopefully the next flood will wash you away like the pile of manure that you are.
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Quoted from GravelGertie:  Why don't you go swimming at the local sewer plant and hopefully the next flood will wash you away like the pile of manure that you are.


What's the matter Gertrude?  Am I getting to you.  ROTFLOL
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The junction is doomed!!!!! The people say it will never be the same, it was in rough shape before and  is just going to fall apart now....terrible terrible terrible....Hope the smell goes away and no one ends up sick. FEMA isn't going to savethe day...
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The Junction is not doomed, scarred, but not doomed


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it is doomed. dozens will walk away freom their home because they cannot afford to fix them up .. there will be abandoned homes there up the wazoo.


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Sch’dy County
folks can get aid
for Lee damage
    SCHENECTADY — U.S. Sens. Charles E. Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand announced Wednesday that the Federal Emergency Management Agency has made Schenectady County residents eligible for individual assistance for damage suffered by Tropical Storm Lee.
    FEMA’s individual assistance program includes a range of programs, including home repair, temporary housing, grants for serious disaster-related needs and expenses not covered by insurance or other assistance programs.
    Schenectady County residents already were eligible for individual assistance for damage from Tropical Storm Irene.

http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01400&AppName=1
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I fully expect our Senators to have the Junction and the rest of the county up to snuff in no time. Assuming the NNN idiots don't get into office to slow down progress.
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Assuming the NNN idiots don't get into office to slow down progress.


How much slower could it get?


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