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KD
August 17, 2011, 10:22am Report to Moderator
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I really would appreciate it if this posting could stay civil and not go all political-crazy  

Who would I call to complain about a neighbor who's fence is rotting and falling down into my yard, they have like 4 dogs that they do not clean up their poop, piles of wood, metal, junk and standing water. The smell is horrible when it's hot and to be honest, I'm incredibly concerned about the misquitos and flys that are sworming over there.  The house is in shambles and I understand that's their choice. But I have 4 children. I have to PROP their fence up in order for it to not fall into my yard. they have junk in the side yard between our houses, rusted metal, standing water....you name it. Honestly, they are nice people but I believe they are hoarders. With the new Misquito transmitted illness, I'm especially concerned.

Again, please, can we keep this civil?

THanks so much.
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Quoted from KD
I really would appreciate it if this posting could stay civil and not go all political-crazy  

Who would I call to complain about a neighbor who's fence is rotting and falling down into my yard, they have like 4 dogs that they do not clean up their poop, piles of wood, metal, junk and standing water. The smell is horrible when it's hot and to be honest, I'm incredibly concerned about the misquitos and flys that are sworming over there.  The house is in shambles and I understand that's their choice. But I have 4 children. I have to PROP their fence up in order for it to not fall into my yard. they have junk in the side yard between our houses, rusted metal, standing water....you name it. Honestly, they are nice people but I believe they are hoarders. With the new Misquito transmitted illness, I'm especially concerned.

Again, please, can we keep this civil?

THanks so much.


That would be Griesemers department, but don't expect any service from him.  He is way too busy trying to hold on to his job.
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Have you tried having a civil discussion with them about your concerns for your kids' safety and that fence could fall into your yard, etc.  Maybe that along with an offer to help rebuild or repair the fence might be a good start before the local town path....unfortunate as it is, going to town who then goes to neighbor could create a bad blood situation.  I would at least try the talk path first, and if that does no good, then at least you've tried.  GOOD LUCK!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
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Yes, we've talked. They told us a new fence was going to be put up. that was 3 months ago. Since then there are now pieces of old fence (that I assume is what he will be using to eventually replace this one) piled up on top of a trailer, truck bed, canoe and lawn mower tepee in the space that separates our houses.  needless to say, there is no new fence.

They also allow the stray cats in the neighborhood to climb up the roof of their house and enter an upstairs window. the cat pee smell is horrific at times.
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.....also, I did call the town a couple times and I believe it was to the man you mentioned. I did not hear back at all.
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.....also, I did call the town a couple times and I believe it was to the man you mentioned. I did not hear back at all.



If you cannot get satisfaction from Griesemers department, I would recommend calling the Supervisors
Office and complain about his department.
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KD,
I don't know your specific city ordinances, but is there a Pooper Scooper Law?  It would seem that a continuing problem of Piles of Poop would eventually be a public health issue.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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KD,
I don't know your specific city ordinances, but is there a Pooper Scooper Law?  It would seem that a continuing problem of Piles of Poop would eventually be a public health issue.



It's contained to their back yard. you can see through the fence because it's in such bad shape. there is dog poop everywhere. Most is growing mold. It's terrible.

I'm not sure there is a law about one's own back yard....
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Sadly you might have to just put up your own fence. If the city gets involved they could make them tear it down but they have no authority to make them put up a new one. I would try talking to them again, maybe even offer to pay 50% of a new fence since it will also improve your landscape. Our neighbor took advantage of us being nice also, we let him use our lot to store a trailer for awhile eventually though cars and people ended up going back and forth through our property. Instead of making a scene and possibly causing a feud we ended up just putting up a fence so people couldn't cross or use it.


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KD
From the Rodderdam NY Code:

B.

No owner of a dog shall keep or harbor a dog in an unclean or unsanitary manner. For the purpose of this article, "unclean" shall be defined as not being clean of any fleas, bugs or other insects; "unsanitary manner" shall mean that the dog shall not be quartered in surroundings with an unreasonable amount of feces lying about.
Chapter 107.

Sounds like this is what you need. Let me know how you make out.

http://www.ecode360.com/?custId=RO0175


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THANK YOU!!!! Definitely need that. I have just taken a bunch of pictures. I do feel badly for the animals. I can only imagine what is on the inside of their home. The dogs are NEVER taken on walks, they just go out in the
back "yard" (landfill)
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This is sadly a holdover issue from the last administration where they let everyone do whatever they wanted if they were connected somehow with the friends and family of the supervisor or the political leaders of the party that ran the town so terrible. Look what they did to the Macejka family and many other good people who did not deserve attack. There were families with special needs in Maple-Pine Manor who were almost forced out onto the gutters because of the Wall Street greed that administration supported. Also there were many seniors whose needs were ignored at the senior center because of callous indifference towards them. Soon most of these issues will be resolved with people who have compassion entering public service at the town level. It is time for a change. We have Angelo Santabarbara and Sheriff Buffardi and others that will work hard to take car of and address yours and others who have important neighborhood issues like that. It is all about quality of life and the right political leaders will make all the difference.  GG
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From the Rotterdam code provided, you can go to thje Codes Enforcement and also the local ASPCA....at least a part of the concerns might be addressed and maybe they will get the message.  GOOD LUCK and keep us informed on how it goes.


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first call Tedisco.....then toss a nice giant warfarin/peanut butter sandwich over the dilapidated fence.....  


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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I also found this:

‎265-4 Duty to maintain property.
No person owning, leasing, renting, occupying, being in possession of, or having charge of any property in the Town, including vacant lots, shall maintain or allow to be maintained on such property, except as may be permitted by any other Town ordinance, any of the following conditions:
A.
Junk, trash, litter, boxes, discarded lumber, salvage materials, or other similar materials in any front yard, side yard, rear yard or vacant lot;
B.
Attractive nuisances dangerous to children, including, but not limited to, abandoned, broken or neglected equipment, machinery, refrigerators and freezers, excavations, wells or shafts;
C.
Broken or discarded furniture, household equipment and furnishings in any front yard, side yard, rear yard or vacant lot;
D.
Shopping carts in any front yard, side yard, rear yard or vacant lot of any property;
E.
Graffiti or signs, not in compliance with the Town Zoning Code,
Editor's Note: See Ch. 270, Zoning. on the exterior of any building, fence or other structure in any front yard, side yard or rear yard or vacant lot;
F.
Vehicle component parts or other articles of personal property which are discarded or left in a state of partial construction or repair in any front yard, side yard, rear yard or vacant lot;
G.
Any accumulation of weeds, brambles, berry vines, or other vegetation which is over-growing any structure or which exceeds an average height of 10 inches, except that which is kept in a neat and orderly manner for human consumption, or any accumulation of dead organic matter, offal, rat harborages, stagnant water, combustible materials and similar materials or conditions constituting fire, health or safety hazards; however, this does not apply to cultivated flowers or gardens. Properties in A-1 are excluded from this requirement; however, they must conform to all other pertinent sections of the Town Code.
H.
Dilapidation or state of filthiness or uncleanness of any dwelling or other structure which endangers health or life or which permits entrance by rats, mice or other rodents, or by which conditions it attracts rats and other vermin.
I.
The active selling of motor vehicles in a residential zone is limited to two motor vehicles within a given calendar year.
J.
No outside storage of more than two unregistered motor vehicles on any property. Vehicles are to be stored behind the house in the rear of the property with a five-foot side and rear setback.
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