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Libertarian4life
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You sound like a relative of mine - he only got married and have a child to stay out of the war.  He was a f**king wimp. The women and children stayed home, obviously that includes you.


The ones with strong convictions stayed home along with those who had a high draft number.

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Q 1.Tell me this, how do you think the US military is remembered in Viet Nam by the people?

Q 2.Tell me how you think they feel about those who's protests, forced the military to leave the invaded territory?


Answer 1
I've read a lot about Veterans who returned to Vietnam years after the war.  They were surprised at how well
they were welcomed by the Vietnamese.  They were afraid that there may be some hostility by those who
fought or were wounded in the war.  The opposite was true.  When they visited the areas that they had
fought in during the war, they found Vietcong troops who still live in that area who welcomed them and
were eager to discuss the battles they had fought against each other.  
Politically, the people of Vietnam seem to blame the government of the United States for that war, but
not the troops.  (A fact that  L4Life will never understand)
BTW, Vietnam Veterans of America has a program to help the Vietnamese find MIA's that war.  Many of
the North Vietnamese and VietCong were buried in place with no marker for their grave.  VVA collects
information from VVA veterans and sends it to the Viet govt to help locate those graves.

Answer 2
I've only read a little about your question.  It seems that the majority of Vietnamese were oblivious of the
protesters in the USA at the time.  Most had no knowledge of any protest here. Most Vietnamese think that
THEY won the war against the Americans and the protests here were a non event.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The ones with strong convictions stayed home along with those who had a high draft number.



Draft number?... Didn't exist in my time there.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It's just absurd that the protestors think they actually influenced the end of the Veitnam conflict, when they had ABSOUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND DID NOT INFLUENCE ANYTHING!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Invading other countries and killing the citizens is much more offensive to me.
And what was your position on Pearl Harbor - should we not have fought back? We were invaded and citizens were killed.
And what was your position on 9/11 - should we not have fought back? We were invaded and citizens were killed.
And what was your position on the bombings in our embassys - should we not fight back?  We were invaded (sovereign territory) and our citizens were killed.
And what was your position on the Beatles? We were invaded and citizens are dead.




The persons that accept murder of the innocent are the ones that need help.
So, you're admitting you need help?  You're accepting the murder of the innocent (ambassadors, civilian workers in the World Trade Centers, etc).

Don't stand up and claim to be proud of a despicable act in a conversation with me.

Sure, I need meds, for being one of them trouble making peace wanting extremists that will not shut up about murderous acts.
Ok, show me your outrage over the embassy murders ... I'll wait.



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How America Sees Mitt Romney

Romney has worked very hard to become an Americans Caricature, by his lifestyle but even more so by his words:









The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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RUSTY....Stop using logical reasoning and common sense....you're going to give Loser4Life a fit and they'll have to up his meds (that are being paid for with Government funding)!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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RUSTY....Stop using logical reasoning and common sense....you're going to give Loser4Life a fit and they'll have to up his meds (that are being paid for with Government funding)!!!!


Notice, he stopped responding - maybe they finally kicked in.  When presented with an adult conversation, WHO retreated?

Typical liberal (I'd call him a "libertarian, but I don't want to insult the others on here, with whom I'm able to have an adult conversation, and while I don't agree with all their viewpoints (nor they mine), we can have a respectful, civilized, adult conversation without a spitting match.
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It's just absurd that the protestors think they actually influenced the end of the Veitnam conflict, when they had ABSOUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND DID NOT INFLUENCE ANYTHING!!!


Sure, and Kent State had nothing to do with it either.

You seem to have missed the entire sixties and early seventies.

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Sure, and Kent State had nothing to do with it either.

You seem to have missed the entire sixties and early seventies.



You are so naive it is amazing.
Have you tried triple spacing and bolding and color and text sizing to emphasize your postings even more????


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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And what was your position on Pearl Harbor - should we not have fought back? We were invaded and citizens were killed.
And what was your position on 9/11 - should we not have fought back? We were invaded and citizens were killed.
And what was your position on the bombings in our embassys - should we not fight back?  We were invaded (sovereign territory) and our citizens were killed.
And what was your position on the Beatles? We were invaded and citizens are dead.


Pearl Harbor, yes, we declared war.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, terrorism.

9/11 we were attacked by Saudis.
We completely ignored them.

Iraq? No. We invaded on a false premise of weapons of mass destruction threatening us.

Embassy's? You don't want to wait until we actually know who did what? You just want to start bombing and killing anyone in the vicinity?

The Beatles? Only Paul died and he wasn't an American.

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You're accepting the murder of the innocent (ambassadors, civilian workers in the World Trade Centers, etc).



Well you really can't retaliate against dead Saudis.

What do you want to do, just kill some random Saudis?

Ambassadors. I believe arrests have been made.

You want to spill some innocent blood to teach the countries a lesson?

That would be terrorism.

The embassy deaths are outrageous.

I believe in using the proper authorities to deal with crimes in other countries.

Arrests have been made and investigations are continuing.

You really seem to be anxious for someone to die.

I swore you claimed to be pro life.
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You are so naive it is amazing.


Perhaps you could point me to something on the web that says Viet Nam was justified and necessary.

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For any Tim Pawlenty fans:  

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) is stepping down as co-chair of the campaign to elect
Gov. Mitt Romney president.
According to CNN, Pawlenty has been tapped as president and CEO of the Financial Services Roundtable,
a Washington-based group that lobbies for banks.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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No it doesn't piss me off.

You must have some Romney DNA in you.

Tax cuts for the rich unbalanced the tax system.

Cutting social services will only increase crime and incarceration costs.

People won't just die off quietly.





no....a generation thought it would just 'happen' and things are always there for them even if they chose 'wrongly'...

and I use the wrongly because it is wrong......

but who decides what situation is more emergent than another that it demands 'special status' by the podium puckers..?

FLAT TAX
FLAT TAX
FLAT TAX
FLAT TAX
FLAT TAX



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Cicero at the voting booth:



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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