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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Generally, ANY ambulance company is not participating with specific insurance companies.  If the amount of the bill is high enough, the insurance companies will negotiate a lower rate,  but if it is a high enough bill, the insurance companies then negotiate for a lower price, sometimes being able to receive a reduction on the cost.  This is not always the case, however.  That's a determination between the ambulance company and the insurance companies.  There are some, however, that will never accept these negotiations.


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That's why it's a moot point to even give REMS the 'special' treatment....it doesn't matter....National Healthcare and it's event horizon is on it's way....
no one is arguing the point of their work(that's great) but the machine that is rolling down the rails right now will be their god...not us


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Stock photo of the ambulances we will be purchasing. This is a Wheeled Coach Crusader Type II ambulance.



There's a comment on their facebook page:

John Davies: Awesome, are you gonna paint them puke green so when you go under all they have to do is put new letters on 'em?



http://www.facebook.com/photo......p;id=124151394282786
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Looks more like an "Ambulette".  Not sure they could get a whole lot of ALS or even BLS equipment in there.
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Don't get your panties in a twist here. REMS is not going anywhere. They are doing just fine now without a taxing district. However there still is that little issue about the missing $250K that rems charged for ALS service....yes?

And your assumption of mohawk or any medical service leaving the insurance network shows your disconnect for the facts.With obama care......any ambulance service will HAVE to accept insurance. Read the 2,000 page health care bill.

With obama care, there CAN'T be a monopoly!! READ THE HEALTH CARE BILL.......I did!


The Health Care bill does nothing to guarantee that there will be competition between several viable ambulance services.    If REMS goes out -- there will be no competition for Mohawk.    No competition = a monopoly.       And the Health Care bill will not change that.


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The Health Care bill does nothing to guarantee that there will be competition between several viable ambulance services.    If REMS goes out -- there will be no competition for Mohawk.    No competition = a monopoly.       And the Health Care bill will not change that.


There's no competition for Time Warner in the area, but you don't hear politicians screaming about that.

There's no competition for Verizon in the area, but you don't hear politicians screaming about that.

There's no real competition for National Grid, but you don't hear politicians screaming about that.
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There's no competition for Time Warner in the area, but you don't hear politicians screaming about that.

There's no competition for Verizon in the area, but you don't hear politicians screaming about that.

There's no real competition for National Grid, but you don't hear politicians screaming about that.


There should be competition for cable and energy.     There is competition for phone service -- I don't use Verizon for my phone service.  

But cable, energy and phone service have nothing to do with the discussion about  REMS.


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There may be only one ambulance service someday but the prices are controlled by what the insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid will cover for the service. If they charge too much another service could move in and challenge them for the service.
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The Health Care bill does nothing to guarantee that there will be competition between several viable ambulance services.    If REMS goes out -- there will be no competition for Mohawk.    No competition = a monopoly.       And the Health Care bill will not change that.


Apparently you still dont get it.....national healthcare IS A MONOPOLY.......they dont need competition....did you ever read Atlas
Shrugged? the owners of mohawk and any other ambulance corps are just a rail are a system where the 'owners' can only hope
to stay in their position and possibly being the fall guys for poor government choices/$$ shuffling and robinhood tactics.....when
something happens, the regulators will purport that the leaders of the corps didn't follow some dumbass rule that no one could
follow but it was always ignored by the regulators until the politicos need a fall-guy/gal.......

there is always a 'jesus' in the machine......he is after all the savior and the leaders of the corps shall sit there until 'told not to'......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I would rather read Berkeley Breathed.


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Stock photo of the ambulances we will be purchasing. This is a Wheeled Coach Crusader Type II ambulance.



There's a comment on their facebook page:

John Davies: Awesome, are you gonna paint them puke green so when you go under all they have to do is put new letters on 'em?



http://www.facebook.com/photo......p;id=124151394282786


Big difference here John....Unlike REMS, Mohawk would have to 'buy' it in order to own it. They wouldn't be acquiring it from the taxpayers..........k?


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I would rather read Berkeley Breathed.


yeah, well, those 'glasses' ain't gonna getcha dinner everyday.....I love them too....Bloom County is the LIGHT SIDE.....exactly
what it is meant to be....have you watched Serenity....no effort there....just watch and pay attention.......then read Atlas Shrugged..
I read it about 3-4years ago after reading We The Living.......really,,,,I'm not being sarcastic...but, life IS that difficult and to rely on
government to 'sell sh*t' to you for pillow fluffing is ridiculous......I like the light side, HONEST, I do...but you and I know that the soul  
and mind of wo/mankind is unknowable and barely controlable.......so,,,,you are you and I am I.........JMHO


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from senders
yeah, well, those 'glasses' ain't gonna getcha dinner everyday.....I love them too....Bloom County is the LIGHT SIDE.....exactly
what it is meant to be....have you watched Serenity....no effort there....just watch and pay attention.......then read Atlas Shrugged..
I read it about 3-4years ago after reading We The Living.......really,,,,I'm not being sarcastic...but, life IS that difficult and to rely on
government to 'sell sh*t' to you for pillow fluffing is ridiculous......I like the light side, HONEST, I do...but you and I know that the soul  
and mind of wo/mankind is unknowable and barely controlable.......so,,,,you are you and I am I.........JMHO


I swear you must smoke a joint or two before you type your posts.      Even Bob Dylan's lyrics make more sense.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
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