An independent source, that is widely used by anybody with any sense of ethics, or integrity (not Fox), put it at 87,000 +/- 5%.
Yep - really "independent" and oh so FULL of integrity!
Quoted Text
Senior executives, on-air personalities, producers, reporters, editors, writers and other self-identifying employees of ABC, CBS and NBC contributed more than $1 million to Democratic candidates and campaign committees in 2008, according to an analysis by The Examiner of data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.
The Democratic total of $1,020,816 was given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks, with an average contribution of $880.
Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.
Having attended a few Right To Life Marches in DC, I would disagree with your assertion that officials do not make unreliable counts -- every year the National Park Service undercounts the numbers at the Right To Life Marches.
I do agree that i was probably between 300,000 and 500,000 .. having seen the pictures and having been in that area of the Mall myself (not for 8-2 .. I believe that 300,000 to 500,000 is accurate.
Tommy calling others names will not turn your wishes into truth. You are starting to look like just another troll who just likes to start an argument.
Essentially, The New York Times (a paper that you all love to hate) misquoted NBC, you saw an opportunity, so you picked it up and ran with it.
And of course, most of you didn't even bother to read the link that stated 87,000, because you saw it was from CBS, and wet yourself running out of the room screaming OH NOES! THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA!, before even bothering to see that the count was done by a reliable, independent company, that specializes in that kind of thing.
Palin wants to "restore honor"? Maybe she can start by apologizing to the Alaskan people for walking out of a job that she swore on the bible to uphold, when she found she could make more money elsewhere.
I honestly and truly don't understand how so many people can't or won't recognize this man as the charlatan he is.
I mean seriously. If this guy were trying to sell them a car or knocked on their door with an "exciting opportunity", nobody would give him the time of day. His barely-concealed attitude of "I'm gonna lie to you and manipulate you for my own material gain and you're gonna thank me for it" and accompanying ever-present smirk make his intentions all too obvious to even a casual observer.
But because he's selling right-wing politics and vague, often contradictory conservative Christianity, he's a figure to be trusted. Unbelievable.
Oh, and, this is such a ridiculous troll: "Libs are scared of the grass roots organizations taking back America."
The minority will not "take back" America from the majority, seeing as how it did not "have" America in the first place. Go look at the election numbers from 2008 again, and then the statistics for this teeny tiny little minority you're talking about, and let us all know how that translates into "grass roots organizations" winning a national election.
Anyway, I don't see any 'Tea Party' candidates winning anything, all I see are Republicans bamboozling the confused 'Tea Party' minority into voting for Republicans.
You can put a funny tri-cornered hat festooned with teabags and made-in-China plastic American flags on the Republican party and call it anything you want, but they're not winning any presidential elections for at least another 8 years. Even if they did, they'll never, ever give you what you seem to think you want. As always, Republicans will take your money and your votes and then promptly ignore you until the next election cycle, when you will fall for their bullshiat all over again because they drop the right code words: "Guns, Gays, Jesus, No New Taxes. Small Government." You'll eat it up with a farking spork and beg for more as Republicans sell your country out from under you to the Saudis.
Palin doesn't have a chance in hell of winning the presidency.
If you guys want to start getting serious, instead of worshipping every piece of contradictory drivel that oozes out of the self described "rodeo clown" Glen Beck's mouth, try giving Condi Rice a call.
I honestly and truly don't understand how so many people can't or won't recognize this man as the charlatan he is.
sh*t, Conservatives just listen to Beck articulate his points of view, they wouldn't elect him President. Liberals on the other hand, actually voted in a charlatan for president.
In 2004, after being elected to Senator, Barack Obama signs a $1.9 million dollar 3 book deal. Talk about shameless self promotion. Barack Obama is a PR creation much like we have in the teen pop music industry. He is like the Brittany Spears, Hannah Montana, Justin Beavers of Presidents.
The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are. ~ H.L. Mencken
The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are. ~ H.L. Mencken
NBC News said it was closer to 300,000? NBC never stated any such thing. They merely stated that "a permit was applied for, a crowd UP TO 300,000.
Quoted Text
Domenico Montanaro, an NBC News off-air political reporter, tweeted Saturday that a Parks Service official said there were probably 300,000 to 325,000 in attendance (even though the Parks Service wasn't officially counting). The New York Times cited NBC News' estimate of 300,000, and the Drudge Report amplified the tally even more.
On Monday, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough repeated 500,000 several times during "Morning Joe." (That's the number organizers of the event gave to The Upshot on Saturday.) Beck said Monday that he didn't think there were a million people there as some have claimed.
Actually my son and some of his fraternity brothers went down there. They did not have such a terrible time parking or "fighting" the crowds. They went as a "goof." He didn't think there were more than 100,000 people there. Talk about chalatans--that is the exact word my son used to describe Beck. (BTW my kid did not vote for McCain) He thought Beck was a "jerk" and totally making fools out of Tea Party folks (he also thinks they are fools) but he did think Palin was "hot." No brains--but "hot."
Actually my son and some of his fraternity brothers went down there. They did not have such a terrible time parking or "fighting" the crowds. They went as a "goof." He didn't think there were more than 100,000 people there. Talk about chalatans--that is the exact word my son used to describe Beck. (BTW my kid did not vote for McCain) He thought Beck was a "jerk" and totally making fools out of Tea Party folks (he also thinks they are fools) but he did think Palin was "hot." No brains--but "hot."
Well of course they think they are fools... They are still college punks that haven't worked a real day in their lives and are going to school on daddy's dime...when I was that young, I felt the same way,
Well of course they think they are fools... They are still college punks that haven't worked a real day in their lives and are going to school on daddy's dime...when I was that young, I felt the same way,
Exactly!!! Hell, if I were a college kid today, I'd be supporting obama too....THE MESSAGE....'we'll forgive your student loans'......'you can be unemployed for 99wks and we'll pay ypu'......'your parents can carry your sorry a$$ on their health insurance until your are 26 years old'!!!!! And hey, maybe they can get one of those feel good nterfaith, non-profit, taxpaid jobs too!!!
Those damn conservative republican!! They actually expect these kids to work and earn their own living AND pay back their loans!!! Damn them!!
Education secretary urged his employees to go to Sharpton's rally By: Lisa Gartner Examiner Staff Writer August 30, 2010 Education Secretary Arne Duncan speaks about the federal school reform grants, Tuesday, July 27, 2010, at the National Press Club in Washington. (AP file photo)
President Obama's top education official urged government employees to attend a rally that the Rev. Al Sharpton organized to counter a larger conservative event on the Mall.
"ED staff are invited to join Secretary Arne Duncan, the Reverend Al Sharpton, and other leaders on Saturday, Aug. 28, for the 'Reclaim the Dream' rally and march," began an internal e-mail sent to more than 4,000 employees of the Department of Education on Wednesday.
Sharpton created the event after Glenn Beck announced a massive Tea Party "Restoring Honor" rally at the Lincoln Memorial, where King spoke in 1963.
The Washington Examiner learned of the e-mail from a Department of Education employee who felt uncomfortable with Duncan's request.
Although the e-mail does not violate the Hatch Act, which forbids federal employees from participating in political campaigns, Education Department workers should feel uneasy, said David Boaz, executive vice president of the libertarian Cato Institute.
"It sends a signal that activity on behalf of one side of a political debate is expected within a department. It's highly inappropriate ... even in the absence of a direct threat," Boaz said. "If we think of a Bush cabinet official sending an e-mail to civil servants asking them to attend a Glenn Beck rally, there would be a lot of outrage over that."
Russ Whitehurst, director of the liberal-leaning Brookings Institution's Brown Center of Education Policy, said nothing like this happened when he was a Department of Education program director from 2001 to 2008: "Only political appointees would have been made aware of such an event and encouraged to attend."
Officially, Sharpton's event commemorated the 47th anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech.
"[Conservatives] think we showed up [to vote for Barack Obama] in 2008 and that we won't show up again. But we know how to sucker-punch, and we're coming out again in 2010," Sharpton said.
Obama avoided comment on Saturday's dueling rallies, but Duncan took the podium alongside Sharpton and 30 other speakers on the football field of Dunbar High School. Thousands of mostly blacks listened -- and a lone man booed -- as Duncan called education "the civil rights issue of our generation."
"Educators, we have to stop thinking of [poor-performing children] as other people's children," he said.
Speakers at the Sharpton rally praised Obama and took jabs at the Tea Party.
"Dr. King gave us a miracle in 2008. He gave us the first African-American president, and we must let them know today that we support [Obama]," said John Boyd, Jr., president of the National Black Farmers Association.
D.C. Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton said Beck's rally "would change nothing. ... We will move right over you."
Education Department spokeswoman Sandra Abrevaya defended Duncan's decision. "This was a back-to-school event," she said.
Duncan was chief executive officer of Chicago Public Schools for seven years before Obama nominated him in December 2008.
The Dept. of Education Secretary Duncan accessed government property for personal use to a promote a political rally.
Based on the Code of Federal Regulations, Sections 2635.704 (Use of Government Property) and 2635.705 (Use of Official Time), it appears that he may have violated the standards of ethical conduct for employees of the Executive Branch.
Logged
.. I believe that 300,000 to 500,000 is accurate.
