Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
ANOTHER DEVELOPER...ANOTHER REZONE REQUEST
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Inside Rotterdam  ›  ANOTHER DEVELOPER...ANOTHER REZONE REQUEST Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 37 Guests

ANOTHER DEVELOPER...ANOTHER REZONE REQUEST  This thread currently has 5,434 views. |
4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Recommend Thread
bumblethru
June 12, 2010, 5:05pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
I'm assuming you are referring to Larned's proposal, yes? I also believe that rotterdam is just about saturated with MFH. However, the land in question here is positioned in a very awkward location in town. Now we all know that walmart was clearly not a good fit for that location for a gazillion reasons.

No matter what goes there, it will pose a negative impact for that area. Increased traffic, increased burden on rotterdam's already at capacity sewer system, railroad tracks, the little league field, the bmx track, larned's gravel pit and 242 apt. units which we can assume, when fully occupied, will bring at least 242 more people and cars/trucks/vans...or whatever.

So I guess my question would be.....these property owners certainly have the right to do 'something' with their land. But what?

If Ms. Dago had just kept things above board and didn't sneak the sale of this land through, we wouldn't be having this cyber conversation.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 30 - 47
MobileTerminal
June 12, 2010, 5:20pm Report to Moderator
Guest User
Good point, can the town wastewater plant handle 242 more units in a high velocity (gravity) flow into the plant?
Logged
E-mail Reply: 31 - 47
clubhouse
June 12, 2010, 5:24pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
779
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+4 / -2
Time Online
61 days 20 hours 4 minutes
Quoted from 147
Good point, can the town wastewater plant handle 242 more units in a high velocity (gravity) flow into the plant?


Not sure that the Planning Commission nor the Town Board would even consider this point or have a clue.  The developer is a Revitalize Rotterdam supporter and like the rest of 'em, he is looking for his SPOT ZONE!
Logged
Private Message Reply: 32 - 47
bumblethru
June 12, 2010, 6:27pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Quoted from clubhouse


Not sure that the Planning Commission nor the Town Board would even consider this point or have a clue.  The developer is a Revitalize Rotterdam supporter and like the rest of 'em, he is looking for his SPOT ZONE!


Taking politics out of this.....what actually would be a good fit there?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 33 - 47
clubhouse
June 12, 2010, 7:58pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
779
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+4 / -2
Time Online
61 days 20 hours 4 minutes
Quoted from bumblethru


Taking politics out of this.....what actually would be a good fit there?


Little League fields!

Logged
Private Message Reply: 34 - 47
Admin
June 16, 2010, 4:51am Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
Quoted Text
ROTTERDAM
Planners question 248-unit proposal Former GOP club site for apartments
BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    Rotterdam’s Planning Commission got its fi rst look at a proposal to build 248 apartments and four baseball fields off North Thompson Street, but did not make a formal recommendation, seeking additional information from property owners Timothy Larned and Maria Esposito.
    Preliminary sketch plans show a cluster of 31 twostory buildings on a triangular 67.8 acre property bordered by Burdeck Street and Princetown Road. The development also includes a 20,000-square-foot commercial building that would be constructed on two acres at the relocated end of North Thompson Street and a field complex for the Rotterdam Little League on eight acres near the town’s sewage treatment plant off West Campbell Road.
    Commission Chairman Tom Yuille said the proposal lacked enough detail for him to certify it as a planned residential development, a zoning designation by which developers are allowed a greater density of buildings under town code. Among other things, he wanted the developer to delineate wetlands near the ball fi elds and show any necessary setbacks needed from neighboring properties.
    “Obviously, you’ve thrown a bunch of stuff at me that I wasn’t prepared for,” he said during the meeting Tuesday.
    Despite asking a number of questions and postponing a decision, commission members didn’t voice any opposition to the project. Some said it would provide a nice buffer between a pair of nearby industrial properties.
    The development is slated for land now zoned for general business and heavy industrial uses. The commission is expected to make a recommendation to members of the Town Board, which would ultimately decide whether to rezone the property.
    The planned residential development is only the second proposed in the town since the zoning designation was created more than a decade ago. Helderberg Meadows, a sprawling 252-unit project now under construction between Guilderland Avenue and County Line Road, is the only other planned residential development in the town.
    Such projects must meet a degree of demand and be connected to sanitary sewers. Donald Zee, an attorney representing property owners Larned and Esposito, said the project would begin the first leg of a long-awaited plan to run a sewer line up Burdeck Street and Route 7 toward the Princetown border.
    Zee said the stretch of sewer line that would serve the development would be “over-designed” to eventually compensate for additional capacity. However, commission members were unsure of how much more sewage the town’s treatment plant can accommodate.
    Some also questioned the density of the apartment buildings. Vice Chairman Larry DiLallo suggested the buildings shown in the sketch plan seemed cramped.
    “Without proper engineering, it’s hard to see how it would fit,” he said.
    Commission member Lynn Flansburg questioned the need for more apartment buildings in Rotterdam. Anecdotally, she said it seemed as though many new apartment units have been added throughout the town during her tenure. .................>>>>............................>>>>....................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00900&AppName=1
Logged
Private Message Reply: 35 - 47
clubhouse
June 16, 2010, 7:01am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
779
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+4 / -2
Time Online
61 days 20 hours 4 minutes
Kudos to Ms. Flansburg for questioning the need for MORE apartments in Rotterdam!  
Logged
Private Message Reply: 36 - 47
GrahamBonnet
June 16, 2010, 8:04am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
9,643
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+16 / -8
Time Online
131 days 7 hours 47 minutes
That may get her fired.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Logged
Private Message Reply: 37 - 47
bumblethru
June 16, 2010, 10:33am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Along with the sewer capacity, there should also be a traffic study done as well. ALL of rotterdam is nothing more than a TWO LANE HIGHWAY.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 38 - 47
boomer
June 16, 2010, 2:51pm Report to Moderator
Guest User
Rotterdam is beginning to look a mess.  Look at Helderberg meadows on W. Ghents road.  Those new houses are eyesores.  You had one new beautiful house on that street built by a private owner and they have taken that road extended it a mile and are building the cheapest looking dreck I have ever seen.  The street is now a speedway.  Who pushed that through?
Logged
E-mail Reply: 39 - 47
TippyCanoe
June 16, 2010, 9:31pm Report to Moderator

displaced by development
Hero Member
Posts
1,636
Reputation
55.56%
Reputation Score
+5 / -4
Time Online
38 days 16 hours 11 minutes
it is ok, they will put up traffic cams and issue speeding tickets - not

just stop signs to control speed

and

speedway - isn't that like a racetrack

now your problem is untouchable


Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
Logged
Private Message Reply: 40 - 47
AVON
June 17, 2010, 6:20am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
785
Reputation
83.33%
Reputation Score
+10 / -2
Time Online
109 days 14 hours 28 minutes
Quoted from GrahamBonnet
That may get her fired.


Nah, that's how they do it.  They all take turns bringing up something controversial to make it look to the public like they are doing their jobs.  It's a GO, just need to throw a few curves to the public along the way!
Logged
Private Message Reply: 41 - 47
Admin
July 21, 2010, 4:43am Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
Quoted Text
ROTTERDAM
Consideration of project awaiting engineer’s report
Supervisor decided to forgo review others still sought

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter Justin Mason at 395-3113 or jmason@dailygazette.net.

    Tom DeLorenzo has asked Rotterdam officials to withhold a decision on his controversial zone change request until the result of a town-designated engineer’s report can be reviewed.
    Apparently unaware of the project’s status, board members argued at length over who decided to remove DeLorenzo’s proposed zone change from the agenda for their business meeting last week. They also questioned Supervisor Frank Del Gallo’s apparent decision to forgo a report from a towndesignated engineer reviewing the validity of DeLorenzo’s claim that he could construct a four-unit apartment building on the property even without the zone change.
    DeLorenzo is asking to change 2.7 acres off Floral Avenue near Walnut Avenue from a mix of zoning to multifamily residential. Residents living in homes adjacent to the property have opposed the proposal, claiming the building would significantly reduce their privacy and diminish the values of their homes.
    Initially, some board members expected to address DeLorenzo’s proposal during their regular business meeting last week. In anticipation of a forthcoming vote, board members Nicola DiLeva and Gerard Parisi both asked for a report they believed town-designated engineer John McDonald was preparing for the town.
    But Del Gallo said he didn’t see a need to “waste taxpayers’ dollars” on creating a report. He said he was under the impression DeLorenzo wasn’t pursuing the zone change any longer.
    “It’s all over with,” he said during the board’s agenda meeting last week.
    Yet both Parisi and DiLeva pressed him for a report. Both indicated they had expected some kind of official recommendation from McDonald when they asked to hire an engineer last month.........................>>>>.....................>>>>.....................................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01400&AppName=1
Logged
Private Message Reply: 42 - 47
AVON
July 21, 2010, 7:22pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
785
Reputation
83.33%
Reputation Score
+10 / -2
Time Online
109 days 14 hours 28 minutes
"But Del Gallo said he didn’t see a need to “waste taxpayers’ dollars” on creating a report. He said he was under the impression DeLorenzo wasn’t pursuing the zone change any longer."

         Of course this is the same man that told us EE only needed to work 1 (one) day per year because she was an elected official.  Sooooooo, we have a no show Town Clerk, and a rookie Deputy Clerk to the tune of $80,000 grand.  And there is no waste to tax payers here??????????????
Logged
Private Message Reply: 43 - 47
MobileTerminal
July 21, 2010, 7:50pm Report to Moderator
Guest User
Diane will be in office soon and everything will be better.

uh huh
Logged
E-mail Reply: 44 - 47
4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Recommend Thread
|

Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Inside Rotterdam  ›  ANOTHER DEVELOPER...ANOTHER REZONE REQUEST

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread