Is this real? What are the D'ago_tinos going to do now? I can't believe they would let this happen on th eve of Judy's very important re-election race next year considering Dominic is in line to be chief or Deputy Sheriff and the cops all want Judy in so they can help Dom do this. He is the driving force of the force and has all of the Italians in town behind him in this here quest and each officer is committed to helping him and his mother in full total.

It's real.   Change is coming ...

I sure hope we're going back to conservative values.

I would like to know the legality of all of this. Is there a conspiracy or is there hanky panky. How is that you can just take something over from the police legally like that? They have done a lot of work to keep the party in the proper hands and some say they shouldnt have their rights to politics restricted. I know that John Mertz tried to make a law to take away their police right to vote. I dont agree with that even though I like Johhny and voted for him too. But how can Mrs. Rinesmith just legally take control of something that isnt hers?

The same way InBev can take over Anheuser-Busch ? or Microsoft takeover of Yahoo? Get the votes of the stockholders (committeemen) and it's simple.

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I would like to know the legality of all of this. Is there a conspiracy or is there hanky panky. How is that you can just take something over from the police legally like that?  

It's called Democracy, Sal.  Anyone can run for any elected office, provided that they satisfy the eligibility requirements, obtain the support of the required number/percentage of voters and file the required documents.  Ms. Rhinesmith is an enrolled member of the Conservative party.  She has just as much a right to run for a committee seat as does any registered Conservative party member.  And, for the record, I, a registered Conservative for many years, am among this slate of candidates.


And, for the record, I fully support the police.  I believe that ensuring the public safety is one of the primary roles and responsibilities of government.  Our law enforcement officers perform a vital role.  I respect them for placing themselves at risk for the sake of the public good.  I don't, however, support any group that leverages the influence and power of a political party (i.e., endorsements) to promote its special interest(s) before that of the party philosophy/ideology.

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From your word choice, I sense which group you support in this election.  One more important note, there are Schenectady Police and Sheriff Deputies who are running with our slate of candidates or who have expressed their support by signing our Designating Petitions.

This is a very positive revelation. It should probably be done with ALL of the political parties. The reps and dems also have seemed to miss the mark on what their REAL ideology is. It is encouraging to hear that there are real conservs out there who want to bring their party back to it's roots with real believers. The other parties should learn from the conservs. I hope they succeed!!!

Well I support the police and the chief, but I like the Republicans in town. I don't know what way things will go but I do know that Dom and his supporters are probably 100% going to stop this with legal means and I know Dom has 100% support from all the police county wide too.

I don't think this is about the cops. It shouldn't be a 'we against them' thing. This appears to be about an ideology that wants to go back to it's roots. It clearly should not be about the 'who or what group will control a political party'. It clearly should not be about motives. It should be all political parties getting back to their original ideology of a political party.

Remember, when joining any political party or choosing a career in public service...it should never be 'all about me/us'. It should be 'all about service'.

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Is this real? What are the D'ago_tinos going to do now? I can't believe they would let this happen on th eve of Judy's very important re-election race next year considering Dominic is in line to be chief or Deputy Sheriff and the cops all want Judy in so they can help Dom do this. He is the driving force of the force and has all of the Italians in town behind him in this here quest and each officer is committed to helping him and his mother in full total.

what are you talking about......Deputy Sheriff!!!

http://www.dailygazette.com

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SCHENECTADY COUNTY
Activist hoping to oust party leaders
Conservative challenge eyed
BY MICHAEL LAMENDOLA Gazette Reporter

    Longtime political activist and Conservative Kelly Rhinesmith is seeking to replace the Schenectady County Conservative Party’s executive board through a primary challenge in September. It is her second attempt since 2004.
    Rhinesmith is challenging from within the organization; she is recording secretary for the county Conservative Party. She said she and “a newly formed reform slate” of enrolled Conservatives will fi eld 252 challengers for 126 committee districts in the Sept. 9 primary. Each district contains two seats.
    She filed designating petitions with the Schenectady County Board of Elections Thursday. If her bid is successful, the challengers would be able to select a new executive
    board after the primary.
    R h i n e s m i t h over the years has charged that the county Conservative Party is not true to its roots and is controlled by Democrats.
    “The Conservative endorsement carries significant weight in elections for local and state offices. Schenectady Democrats recognized this some time ago and began an organized, concerted effort to get their operatives involved in committee positions to gain control,” Rhinesmith said. “Ever since, our committee has taken a decidedly leftward tilt.”
    Conservative Party Chairman Randy Pascarella said the party has filed petitions for committee races in all but about seven districts, triggering the primary.
    Pascarella said the executive board is not concerned with Rhinesmith’s latest effort. “The real Conservatives will see right through her,” he said. “It is going to be a fun September and a whole lot of wasted money; it costs money to primary people.”
    The party’s executive board consists of David F. Battaglia, vice chairman of legislative District 4; Michael Della Rocco Jr., assistant fire chief of the Schenectady Fire Department and party vice chairman of the city; Peter Rakvica, president of AFSCME Local 1130, which represents 28 workers in the Niskayuna highway and parks departments, and party vice chairman in Niskayuna; and Mark LaViolette, a detective with the Schenectady Police Department and vice chairman of the party in Glenville.
    Robert Hamilton is Conservative Party club president; he also is president of the Schenectady City Police Department’s union, the Police Benevolent Association. Rosanna DeMarco is treasurer.
    Rhinesmith said she launched the latest challenge because she believes “hundreds and hundreds of Conservatives are sick and tired of being exploited at the ballot line. They are standing up and saying enough, the Conservative Party is not for sale.”
    As proof of her charge, she pointed to seven designating petitions the Conservative Party submitted Thursday to the county Board of Elections. Each page contained the names of A prominent Democrat, including County Attorney Chris Gardner, county Legislator Martin Finn and Niskayuna Supervisor Joe Landry.
    Pascarella said Democrats do not control the Conservative Party. He said Democrats have witnessed petitions, however. He alleged Rhinesmith herself is getting support “from forces outside of the Conservative Party. It’s not the Democrats and it’s not the Independence Party. We know this based on fact.”
    Rhinesmith denied Pascarella’s claim. “That is not true and he has no basis for that whatsoever,” she said. “We have been doing this for a long time and we have financed all of our efforts ourselves. Conservatives will dig into their own pockets to fund a cause.”

another fork in the fire.......   eventually this pot roast will be cooked.......it's all about the seasonings......."....the salt and light...."

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Is this real? What are the D'ago_tinos going to do now? I can't believe they would let this happen on th eve of Judy's very important re-election race next year considering Dominic is in line to be chief or Deputy Sheriff and the cops all want Judy in so they can help Dom do this. He is the driving force of the force and has all of the Italians in town behind him in this here quest and each officer is committed to helping him and his mother in full total.

Sal what are you talking about? And do you even know what you are talking about? This appears to be nothing more and nothing less than a grassroots movement for the conservs to regain it's original ideology. From the way I read it this has nothing to do with someone becoming a Deputy Sheriff. And if this Dominic guy is in a position to become a Deputy Sheriff...than so be it. Let's not add unnecessary fuel to a non existent fire.

Every member of the force supports the D'agost_nos. Rightly or wrongly indeed. They love those people and especially the boy, Dominic. What you don't understand is the confliction between the sherrif Buffardi, and the policemen over the road-patrol that runs through the county onto the policemens turf. There is a fervant desire that Judy as a powerful Democrat will be in a position shortly upon her re election to put her son into the mix as the under-sherriff which would have lots of power there to control happenings in the jail and on the road-patrol. Through the conservative party, Bumblethrough, this here deal is set to take effect but the Democrats want the policemen to take care to keep the line on the ballot going to the demos, and not repubs, and in return make sure that Judy gets re elected and then gets Dominic into position underneath the Sheriff to make everyone happy, and resolve the struggle over the turf. This I know from very close police friends that are high up and about one year from now or a little more when Judy gets back in [withe the conservative support of course] this is coming into fruitition. You can rest assured friends. Thiis the down deal. This is why every legal remedy will be enforced to keep these troublemakers from getting the party out of Judys hands. Plus they may have some plans for Miss Rinestone that would make her pay a visit to the crowbar motel if they can.

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Plus they may have some plans for Miss Rinestone that would make her pay a visit to the crowbar motel if they can.

Rhinestone?  Jail?  Huh?

Yes, you can be pretty sure that her past legal run ins will be brought to light and any future ones will be really brought to light. I don't like the turncoat Judy D but I like Dominic, he is my friend and the police need are support at all costs and if the endeavor they choose to pursue is to run the conservatives, that is their right to do it, and if you tamper with it, you could be on thin ice.

Oh silly Sal....I think you are just trying to stir the pot here! Perhaps?

check into it. It isnt going to happen. This lady will be jailed if she keeps it up and I know after what she did to Joey Signore and then some corrections officers that she has a spotty record. Why would anyone try to take away the policemens right to vote and assemble peacabley and correctly? This is like a violation of civil rights. I know that the conservatives didnt endorese Angelo S. and they made a tragic mistake going for GOD (thinking that GOD will never lose) when it just so happens if they stuck with an Italian conservative instead of a Polish liberal they would be better off. But Dominic got a lot of people into the party over the past three or five years, and a lot of us are Italians, they should have stuck with Ang and there wouldnt have been a problem, but here in the catch- other than that mistake with GOD, they screwed the pooch  in that, they should rightly be lead by the police since the police ARE conservatives. Capice???? Thay should ususally elect to go with the republicans over demos excepting the times the demos run with someone like Dawnie or Eunice, and Diane when she behaves. They also went with Cooke the kook last time which was a big mistake but WHY did they go with KOOK? WHY? I will tell you all why now- because of the Rinestone cowgirl Kelly R! She demanded that Cooke get the big nod over Stevie T, who with all his faults [ do I need to get into them?] is STILL HANDS DOWN THE most conservative of the two. Now cmmon people, be real. With the police we get th conservatives and we get the people with a big stake in the community being on the right track, with Kelly Rinestone you have U-gotz! So nest tome the police will endorse Ang and yes they will el\ect Judy D which I disagree with but that is to get Dom into position over at the sherriffs where he will be able to keep things in check and keep Harry on a shorter lease. Harry is a good man and of course a marine, but he tries to bite off more then he can chew with his road-patrol and they step on some police toes in rotterdam and in the city . So this can be cured with a man like Dom in place over there. I will wait to see what happens before I resign the conservatives, I dont want no trouble with this lady

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This is like a violation of civil rights.

Sal,

Not sure where you're coming from on your statement (above).  Anyone can run for public office provided that he/she meets the eligibility requirements.  No one is prohibiting the police from participating in the system.  In fact, as previously posted, there are police officers and Sheriff deputies who are included in the slate of reform candidates and who have exhibited their support by signing Designating Petitions for candidates and carrying petitions.  Ultimately, it is the votes of the registered Conservative party members living in Schenectady County who will decide the outcome and the future of my party.

Regarding your prediction that the police will arrest and charge Kelly Rhinesmith with some crime that will render her unable to
advance her objectives, I suggest that this would be an unwise and costly strategy.  First, the public perception would be that Schenectady County is a "banana republic" where political opponents are silenced and/or, as you predict, imprisoned.  Further, such actions would unquestionably lead to federal charges being filed against those who sponsor and participate in this plan.  A subsequent lawsuit would be filed against individuals and groups, which, if found guilty of harrassment and unjustified detention would cost them money, their livelihood, and perhaps their freedom.

It is discouraging to think that you believe that our political system is so corrupt and disfunctional that political adversaries would resort to these types of actions.  Despite my opposition to the political beliefs of those who currently control the Conservative party, I  believe that they are above the type of behavior that you are discussing.

Sal if what you say is true about the cops and Rhinestone....then by golly we do live in one of those them there backwoods, illiterate, uneducated, redneck towns. Hurry and hide yer sheep and goats! Hop in the ole pick up truck and ride on over to yer nearest WalMart deeeepartment store for them there overalls and flannel shirts.  And grab yer shot gun and yer bottle of moonshine while ya pick yer teeth with one of them pieces of hay. Hee Haw!!!

If this is what you think to be right then by all means go ahead and support her and wrong minded intentions, but when you call the police for help and they aren't there, then you will wish you didn't disenfranchise their right to vote by using the republican party to take away that right and then the repubs will be in deep deep soup with Kelly R later down the road. Do you think Steve T likes this here manuover at all? He will again be without the conservatives behind him. And as I said, if we can't get Dominic into the Sherriffs department to fix the trouble there will be bad trouble brewing down the road over there between all the police AND ALL of the sherriffs. Plus don't think for a minute that the police will be behnd the repubs after this slap in the face.

I just think that when a person like Kelly Rine_mith gets into such power it is a sad sad sad day for the town.

You scare me dude.

You scare me dude.

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... I just think that when a person like Kelly Rine_mith gets into such power it is a sad sad sad day for the town.

Hey Sal,

Out of curiosity, why do you replace letters in the names of people who you reference in your posts with underscores?  Is it so internet search engines won't pick up the character strings as matches with the names of people who you discuss?

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... but when you call the police for help and they aren't there, then you will wish you didn't disenfranchise their right to vote by using the republican party to take away that right and then the repubs will be in deep deep soup with Kelly R later down the road

I believe that our law enforcement officers are professionals who will answer the call to duty if and when they are needed.  Are you suggesting otherwise?  Please don't disparage and dishonor the men in blue who serve the public.  They deserve our respect and our support.

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. Do you think Steve T likes this here manuover at all? He will again be without the conservatives behind him.

First Steve T. made it throught the last election without the conservs backing. If he does a good job, he won't have a problem in the next election.

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I just think that when a person like Kelly Rine_mith gets into such power it is a sad sad sad day for the town.

Please explain exactly what kind of power this Kelly is going to gain? I read the article again and what I get from it is that it is just a grassroots movement to regain a political party ideology. I don't know, perhaps I am missing something here.

And further more, I do not think the cops would sink so low as to not answer a call because of politics.

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... I read the article again and what I get from it is that it is just a grassroots movement to regain a political party ideology.

Bumble,

My involvement in this effort is solely for the reason that you cite; to reinstill the conservative ideology to the party and to endorse candidates (Republicans, Democrats, and registered Conservatives) who have conservative positions on the important issues facing Schenectady County and its residents.

Enough said.  We'll wait for the results of the Conservative Party Committee elections on September 9th.

First I dont want to get sued so I just implie who I mean, and second I dont mean that the officers wont respond but like in the case of the police commision [which had the town 99% against it] the morale will sink so low that many officers will be sick, chose other careers and even leave the force to go elsewhere and get jobs where the leaders and people arent against them having their rights. If you appreciate them they will serve you but don't show appreciate by throwing away their right to vote and assemble and be free Americans like Mertz wanted to do- to johhnys credit he backed away from making it so the police cant vote or be members of a party. But if he is behind this then I wil be upset with him again.

Wow i heard it all on this thread......i work at the sheriff department and this  is the first time i heard these  "RUMORS"

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Wow i heard it all on this thread......i work at the sheriff department

Hey, Goomba!  We meet in the strangest places!

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Wow i heard it all on this thread......i work at the sheriff department and this  is the first time i heard these  "RUMORS"

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

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Hey, Goomba!  We meet in the strangest places!

  Goomba.........ya thanks

I think there are too many steroids being passed and as far as this whole thing is going---would this have ANYTHING to do with the sch'dy city chief's wife's 2nd job?????

I'm not a police officer and as I have stated before never could be(the tasers would be on the charge unit more than not) and the guns would always be hot and my fists sore......

anyhow, I have one question------WHO THE HELL IS IN CHARGE........obviously NO ONE WHO WANTS TO STAND STRAIGHT................

http://www.dailygazette.com

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You all got scuttlebut on this yet? I heard the officers got it all locked up.

Good for them----take it to the bank.....the demoralizing of the people(sheeple or whatever) is going well, wouldn't we all agree......all the parties have yet to find their way out of this wet paperbag......divide and conquer......the 'true' shepherd is no where to be seen......but, the seasons are changing.....

ah so grasshopper you are a funny and philosophical gent. I like you

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You all got scuttlebut on this yet? I heard the officers got it all locked up.

No scuttlebut yet. But I'll be the dems and reps are holding their breath.

well my sources tell me now that if the policemen dont keep the rightful control of the conservative party there will be a takeover by the sheriffs by mr. Buffardi in order to have the countywide policing that he desires. A prominant demo even wrote a ltter to the gazette today to float that idea to the people of the county. This will be the straw that breaks our backs as the taxpayers and worse for us over here in Rotterdam the sherriff patrol will be costing us millions but they will be over there in hamilton hill catching the bad guys and no police will be here in rotterdam to watch over us. all our boys in blue will be pulled into being sheriffs and then will be patrolling Crane street and Mt Pleasant and Hamiltyon hill. What does that do to help  us over here? No more olice here to keep us safe, who do ya like that???? Happy now Miss Rinestone???

This is in the works and when