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SEEEEEEE what I mean! You give him the power to tease the crap out of you and the rest of us are chuckling like crazy because he gets under your skin so easy! SCORCH MT!!!!!!!


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SEEEEEEE what I mean! You give him the power to tease the crap out of you and the rest of us are chuckling like crazy because he gets under your skin so easy! SCORCH MT!!!!!!!


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UPDATE: Police disciplinary hearings won't be open to public — and may not be held at all
Judge rules Civil Rights Law 50a favors union; city will appeal

Wednesday, July 15, 2009
By Steven Cook (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

SCHENECTADY — Police disciplinary hearings scheduled to begin Thursday won’t be open to the pubic and they may not be held at all, after a judge’s ruling this morning.
The city had sought to hold public hearings, starting with one concerning officer John Lewis.
The police union appealed to Acting Supreme Court Justice Barry Kramer, arguing that the provision the city was using was invalid.
Kramer agreed in a decision handed down from the bench this morning, finding Civil Rights Law section 50a — the one favored by the union — supersedes the Second Class Cities Law favored by the city.
Kramer noted the city has acted under the same provisions for years and a recent court case cited by the city does not apply.
“In my view the city cannot now disavow their longstanding adherence to collective bargaining provisions,” Kramer ruled.
City Corporation Counsel L. John Van Norden said afterward the decision will be appealed. But he said as it stands it not only closes any hearing, but, for now, would prevent them from happening.
He expected Thursday’s hearing for Lewis to be canceled. Lewis’ case has been going on for a year; because of that, Van Norden said it could proceed under the old system based on an arbitrator.
Decisions on six other officers facing termination would be made later.
Prior to Kramer’s decision, attorneys for both sides made their arguments.
Attorneys for the union and officers argued that state Civil Rights Law 50a supercedes any of the city’s arguments under another law, the Second Class Cities Law.
They also argued that the city did not give a reason to ignore that.
“The city of Schenectady thinks it would be a good public relations move to do so without even giving a compelling reason or even a valid reason,” attorney James Tuttle said.
But, in giving an impassioned plea for openness, Van Norden told Kramer transparency in a democracy is not only a valid reason, but a compelling one.
He likened closed hearings to the Soviet Union and other totalitarian states.
“These are police officers,” Van Norden said. “They carry guns. Then can arrest us and use force against us. They have incredible authority and they have to be expected to act responsibly. When they don’t they need to be called out in public.”
The public needs to know, Van Norden said. “If they don’t know anything about it, they can’t ever evaluate that part of government,” Van Norden said.
The police union went to court last month in an effort to close the hearings, which the city planned to have open to the public. But Kramer ordered at least a three-week ban while the issue was sorted out.
Van Norden has argued for openness, saying the public and police deserve transparency.
But Michael Ravalli, representing the PBA, had warned that police officers would experience irrevocable harm if their discipline was made public.
Van Norden has said the Civil Rights Law is “wishy-washy” on the matter, while the Second Class Cities Law that allows the city to hold such hearings requires them to be public.
He has also cited a Court of Appeals ruling that, according to the city, empowered Public Safety Commissioner Wayne Bennett to discipline officers himself. Previously, arbitrators made the final decision.............>>>>.................>>>>>...................................http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2009/jul/15/0715_hearings/
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Sometimes(or maybe alot of the time) doing what the rest of the sheeple are doing in your pasture will seem to 'protect' you
when in fact, a person may be headed off the cliff too and tainted by collective eating of the feed of that particular pasture......

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Now that's what I call 'transparency'....NOT!!


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SCHENECTADY
Cops to face disciplinary hearings
Arbitrator will hold a trial, make recommendation

BY KATHLEEN MOORE Gazette Reporter

    The city is returning reluctantly to the old system of disciplining police officers in hopes of finally being able to fire the seven officers who are being paid for every day that their hearings are delayed.
    The last two times the city tried to use the old system to fire officers, the terminations were overturned and the city was forced to rehire the officers. But a decision by Judge Barry Kramer gave the city no choice but to try that system again, Corporation Counsel L. John Van Norden said.
    The city’s only other option is to keep the officers out, with pay, for up to a year in hopes that Kramer’s decision would be reversed on appeal. The city is appealing to the state Appellate Division.
    In the meantime, Officer John Lewis and six others will face discipline under the old system, in which a hearing offi - cer holds a private trial and then recommends a disciplinary action.
    The mayor, who appoints the hearing officer, decides whether to follow the recommendation. Once discipline is handed out, the police union can appeal the discipline to an arbitrator, who makes the final determination. The arbitrator’s decision cannot be overruled by the mayor.
    It was at that point, in the past, that Lewis was reinstated after being fired for using a racial slur. He successfully.......................>>>>.............>>>>.........http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....300&ViewMode=GIF
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Who are the arbitrators???????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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I heard on talk radio today that a SPD officer was working as a contract security officer at Hess on Heldeberg Ave WHILE ON DUTY from SPD.  I *think* they said it was the officer caught sleeping on duty a few months ago

Did anyone else hear this - or verify?


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That would be very sad indeed.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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New probe into top-paid cop
Did Schenectady force's top earner work another job while on the clock?


By PAUL NELSON, Staff writer
First published in print: Thursday, August 6, 2009

SCHENECTADY -- Dwayne Johnson, the city's all-time highest-paid police officer, is facing new accusations he shirked his police duties and was simultaneously being paid by two employers.


Police Chief Mark Chaires confirmed Wednesday that the department is conducting an internal probe into allegations Johnson might have been working security for a city business when he should have been on patrol. He said these latest revelations surfaced amid the original investigation by the department's Office of Professional Standards that Johnson was spending early morning hours during his shift at a Schenectady apartment when he was supposed to be protecting city residents.

"The evidence has always compelled us to look into this matter and that continues to this day," Chaires said of the latest allegation. "The Schenectady Police Department is driving the criminal and administrative investigation." While he declined to discuss the evidence, he said paper work such as tax-related documents being reviewed shows Johnson was "simultaneously being paid by two employers.".................>>>>.............>>>>...............http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=828370&category=YTSCHENECTADY
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Carl Strock THE VIEW FROM HERE
Carl Strock can be reached at 395-3085 or by e-mail at carlstrock@dailygazette.com.

What Sch’dy
cop story tells us about P.D.

    How fascinating. A Schenectady cop was apparently cheating the Police Department by working as a security guard at a Hess convenience store when he was supposed to be patrolling the streets, and on at least some occasions he was apparently cheating Hess also by not really doing the security-guard job but rather holing up in an apartment for a few hours of rest and recuperation.
    So learned my colleague Kathleen Moore in several months of diligent sleuthing and so she reported in this newspaper yesterday. The cop in question, Dwayne Johnson, now might be facing criminal charges.
    Meanwhile, he continues to collect his full pay of about $1,000 a week while he sits at home waiting for this matter to be resolved. He was suspended without pay in February, after Kathleen’s initial report, but the unpaid part lasted only 30 days, per the union contract.
    What a world of insight is contained in this story, once you start to think about it.
    First, it means that after years of scandal in the Schenectady Police Department, including multiple incidents of cops shirking their jobs, one officer still felt comfortable enough shirking his that he did it week after week, presumably without fear of getting caught.
    It means, if the allegations are true, that he wasn’t worried about dispatchers noticing he was unavailable for calls. It means he wasn’t worried about a supervising sergeant tracking him down. It means that during those days when he really did pull guard duty at the Hess station on Brandywine Avenue he wasn’t worried about some random citizen wondering what he was doing there, in uniform, in a marked patrol car, for hours at a time. .............>>>>...............>>>>................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01300&AppName=1
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Suspended Schenectady cop indicted on two felonies
Monday, August 10, 2009
By Steven Cook (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

SCHENECTADY — A suspended city police officer was indicted today on two felonies, accused of violating orders of protection, Schenectady County District Attorney’s officials said.
Kyle Hunter, 38, of Steers Avenue, was indicted on two counts of first-degree criminal contempt, felonies. Hunter also faces three counts of misdemeanor second-degree criminal contempt and one count of fourth-degree criminal mischief, a misdemeanor.
The two felonies mean that Hunter would automatically lose his job as a city police officer, if he is convicted.
Hunter, an eight-year veteran of the force, was suspended in March after accusations he used his ex-girlfriend’s car without authorization. Hunter was later accused of violating an order of protection and kicking in a door at the woman’s residence in April............................................http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2009/aug/10/0810_hunter/
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Who will be the next police Czar? consolidation is a headache......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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The two felonies mean that Hunter would automatically lose his job as a city police officer, if he is convicted.


Until then, he'll be pulling his full salary.


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