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| September 10, 2007, 12:55am |
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And cheers to the Rotterdam PD, this was taken care of very fast I believe. |
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Elderly woman beaten, robbed Two 21-year-old women arrested BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
Rotterdam police said a young mother and a pregnant woman from Schenectady threw bleach in the eyes of an 88-year-old woman while they savagely beat and robbed her Saturday in the parking lot of her Fort Hunter Road apartment complex. Dominique Lucas, 21, of 967 Maple Ave., and Tiffany Tolliver, 21, of 215 Albany St., were both charged with felony first-degree robbery Saturday evening. Further charges are expected to be levied against the women in what authorities are calling one of the most heinous crimes perpetrated in the town over the past decade. “In my 14 years here, this is one of the most brutal crimes that has happened to one of our residents,” said Sgt. Robert Denny of the attack. “It just turns my stomach.” Investigators said Lucas and Tolliver watched the woman while she shopped at the Ocean State Job Lot in Crosstown Plaza, and then tracked her back to Victoria Apartments about four miles away, where they jumped her from behind. The two women numerous times in the face and threw a cup of bleach in her eyes before making off with her purse in a white Cadillac, police said. Tolliver’s 2-week-old child was in the car while the assault was taking place, police said. “They picked her out randomly,” Denny said. Police found the Cadillac parked Hannaford Plaza, where Lucas and Tolliver had been shopping at .J. Wright, using the elderly wom-450 worth of clothes. Denny said Tolliver was seen leaving the store carrying her infant child under one arm and purchases from the store under the other. While interviewing the women, investigators noticed fresh blood on their clothes, Authorities said Tolliver had left her other child, 17 months old, home alone; both of her children were referred to county Child Protective Services. Police said Lucas was eight-months pregnant at the time of the assault. The elderly woman, whom police declined to identify, suffered multiple cuts and bruises to her face and torso. She was taken to Ellis Hospital, where she was treated for her injuries and released early Sunday morning. “She lost a lot of blood,” Denny said. One of the woman’s neighbors, who asked to remain anonymous, said she discovered the elderly woman after the fleeing suspects apparently crashed into a stone retaining wall at the apartment complex. When she heard the crash, she said, she looked out her window and saw the senior citizen crumpled on the ground. “I came out and there was [the woman] laying in the parking lot, just bleeding everywhere,” she recounted. “She was just worried about her groceries and her keys.” Neighbors said the area of the attack was covered with so much blood that volunteer firefighters later had to hose down the parking lot. Others were amazed the woman recovered enough from her injuries to return home. Both Tolliver and Lucas have been charged with crimes in Schenectady, according to police and reports. Denny said Tolliver had a warrant for her arrest stemming from a May robbery in the city; Schenectady police had no information on the case Sunday. Lucas was arrested in April and charged with felony counts of third-degree criminal possession of a controlled substance and third-degree criminal possession of stolen property. She was arrested on similar charges in March 2006, when she was pulled over by police in a vehicle reported stolen out of Saratoga County, and which had six small envelopes containing heroin. Both women were arraigned in Town Court Saturday and were ordered held without bail. County District Attorney Robert Carney was guarded in his reaction to the case, which is expected to be reviewed by a grand jury shortly with additional charges anticipated. “It’s a horrible, horrible crime,” he said, “We will spare no effort to bring them to justice.”


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| September 10, 2007, 9:15am |
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I wonder where 'planned parenthood' was for them???? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.......  |
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| September 10, 2007, 10:20am |
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I am awaiting the additional charges against the two offenders. They have been charged with 1st degree robbery. There should be additional charges of assault, endangering the welfare of a child (one left a 17 month old child alone at home), and perhaps, others.
I understand that both of these women who assaulted the elderly women have criminal records. We should all be following the trial and the sentencing and demand that they receive just punishment. |
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| September 10, 2007, 12:54pm |
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See, the problem with this that the Schenectady County Metroplex hasn't got around to these people's neighborhoods to clean up the street like it has down on State Street between Nott and Erie. These ladies live outside that area. Just a couple of 21 y.o. baby factories that need to be shut down.
And the true reason that these ladies had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood? That's because you don't get additional benefits, i.e. more public assistance and food stamps once you have an abortion. You need to actually have the baby in order to get the paycheck.
And Zim, don't forget, this would be 2 charges of endangering the welfare of a child. The one that they brought with them, they left in a parked car. Remember what the weather's been like lately? I bet they didn't leave it running with the air conditioning on for the kid. They couldn't be bothered, they needed to run and do some shopping. Have you ever tried to try on clothes while holding onto your annoying little 2 week old kid? (I'm sure this is exactly how they saw it but will give the explanation that they didn't want to bother the child who was sleeping at the time they went into the store.) |
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| September 10, 2007, 1:45pm |
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Not only endangering charges regarding the kids, but this should not be just a robbery charge, it should be attempted murder |
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| September 10, 2007, 1:54pm |
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They should be charged with aggravated assault at the very least if not attempted murder. |
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| September 10, 2007, 4:56pm |
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See, the problem with this that the Schenectady County Metroplex hasn't got around to these people's neighborhoods to clean up the street like it has down on State Street between Nott and Erie. These ladies live outside that area. Just a couple of 21 y.o. baby factories that need to be shut down.
yes,,,,,they came to the 'clean Rotterdam'.......downtown is too expensive.....there is a shop on Jay selling golf shirts for $75.00....not to mention the cost of the art work or the cost of Proctors show tickets.......Rotterdam has the walmart/thrift shop and those nice dollar stores.......hhhhmmmm |
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| September 10, 2007, 7:20pm |
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I was just watching Channel 6's coverage. The one girl, the Lucas one I think, it was reported had 5 prior arrests, I think they said drugs, car theft, and other stuff. She's only 21. That is quite a history for a relatively new adult.
The question I have is why was she not in jail or prison. Did she get all those other arrests thrown out? God help us if she gets a lawyer like that Kindlon to weasel her way out, he would love the publicity enough to do it pro-bono. |
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| September 10, 2007, 9:24pm |
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Probably put into Juvie for a while. And I'm surprised that her previous record (at least to some extent) hasn't been closed (or sealed) to not be used against her again. |
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The one girl, the Lucas one I think, it was reported had 5 prior arrests, I think they said drugs, car theft, and other stuff.
Okay...like a repeat sex offender, Ms. Lucas is also a repeat offender. What new law will the county legislature propose for this one? I'm sure that Eddy and Suzie could dream up something...don't ya think? |
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I was just watching Channel 6's coverage. The one girl, the Lucas one I think, it was reported had 5 prior arrests, I think they said drugs, car theft, and other stuff. She's only 21. That is quite a history for a relatively new adult.
The question I have is why was she not in jail or prison. Did she get all those other arrests thrown out? God help us if she gets a lawyer like that Kindlon to weasel her way out, he would love the publicity enough to do it pro-bono.
I saw the same report and thought the same thing as you. Equally important to the charges filed is the punishment. I think the biggest problem is that there are never any consequences for criminals. Starting as children when Mom says no..........12 times, before she gives in. They learn early no doesn't really mean no. Be it DWI ( how many times have we heard of an arrest for some guy's 5th DWI) or murder, or how 'bout sex offenders? There are never any consequences to their actions. I'm sick of the scum of the earth who can't be bothered with getting a job and being a decent person beating up and stealing from hard working people. Beat up an old lady, they should just string the two of them up some where and let them suffer for a couple of weeks. I don't care about their civil liberties. |
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mikechristine1 |
| September 11, 2007, 12:13am |
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Oh gosh, did anyone see the Channel 6 coverage of them in court this evening?
The Tolliver punk said she didn't have anything to worry about because she's a mother.
And then that Lucas punk did a Michael Jackson imitation kind of. Pretending to be in pain and she was taken to the hospital. |
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| September 11, 2007, 12:18am |
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She said she was a mother of 5. Its a vicious circle. The poor kids don't stand a chance I hope they drop the other one into the Mohawk on the way to the hospital.....put us all out of HER misery. |
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mikechristine1 |
| September 11, 2007, 12:40am |
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I'm glad someone else heard that, about mother of 5, I thought I heard wrong, so I didn't throw in hearing that. We know about 2, where are the other three? |
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