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R O T T E R D A M
Walgreen’s plan up for board approval

BY MATT VOLKE Gazette Reporter

   Plans to tear down the Capitol Plaza in Rotterdam for a Walgreen’s drug store will be eligible for approval Tuesday, and the public will have a chance to speak.
   The Rotterdam Planning Commission will be conducting a final site plan review at 7 p.m. at Town Hall, 1100 Sunrise Blvd., along with a public hearing on the project.
   HDB Ventures, which has offices in Skaneateles, New Jersey and Connecticut, has a proposal for a 14,700-square-foot drug store with 65 parking spaces, and will require Capitol Plaza to be demolished.
   The plaza was the town’s first mall, built in the mid-1950s, and is zoned for commercial use, allowing a drug store.
   There are 14 small businesses in the plaza, like a pizza shop, restaurant/bar, men’s clothing store, dance studio and printer.
   Developers have said the leases of the tenants will be honored, and have said they are looking for alternative locations to place them.
   HDB has the option to buy the property based on Planning Commission approval. Developers have said they are considering buying the Grand Union building on Hamburg Street to relocate businesses.
   Planning Commission co-chairman Frank Renna said he plans to meet with some of the businesses today."I feel pretty secure they’ve been taking care of the tenants," Renna said.
   Planning Commission member Robert Godlewski said he has concerns about both the potential loss of small businesses and traffic.
   He also questioned the need for another pharmacy in that area. There is an Eckerd, a Rite Aid, which is proposing an expansion, a Hannaford and Price Chopper, both with pharmacies, and a Wal-Mart.
   "I kind of like seeing all those businesses there," he said. "It’s one of the few places where you have such a selection of businesses. . . . I don’t want to lose that."
   Both Godlewski, a Democrat, and Renna, a Republican, are running for Town Board in November for the only open seat.  
  

  
  
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The plaza was the town’s first mall, built in the mid-1950s, and is zoned for commercial use, allowing a drug store.


Could have been historic site too.....tied into Mallozzis, Gabriels, Price Chopper etc.....history history history with panache and style...


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LaBella's Beauty Salon is moving to Guilderland Ave. across from the Rite Aid.

Regal Dry Cleaners has already moved to Curry Road in the Fitzner's Canvas building across from Curry Freeze.
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So when does it come down??? Anyone know the schedule for demolition to build ??
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I thought the spring of next year, but that could be old news. Newest Lunch still has to relocate.


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How about Newest going into part of the old Grand Onion?
Or at the pool hall that is supposed to close (well, they might be competition for Scarboroughs
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hamburg street doesnt need ( want ) that business....
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biaggio, are you replying to me about Newest?  Just curious why not.  But, admitedly I haven't gone there except once when they first opened.  I don't know if they changed, but I think when they originally opened we thought they also would have the hot dogs with the great sauce like the place on Albany St.  They didn't then and we haven't been there since, something else always was ahead of that Newest for us.
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Funny you should say that, cause I went when they first opened anticipating the great hot dogs they use to be known for. I had a hot dog and fries and haven't been back since. Redwood's hot dog sauce is 'okay'...but Broadway Lunch still is #1 for me!!


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Newest lunch draws bands late night crowds that drive drunk.......I have been in there ....Fights etc....There was also a stabbing in there...Not your regular tavern environment......I dont want to see it around here....Why do you think they are the last to leave ???? Why bring what you are looking to keep away...
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Both Godlewski, a Democrat, and Renna, a Republican, are running for Town Board in November for the only open seat.


I thought Godlewski was running for County Leg.?
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Both Godlewski, a Democrat, and Renna, a Republican, are running for Town Board in November for the only open seat.

I thought Godlewski was running for County Leg.?


This comment was from 2006.


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Duh, I see that now.........
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You scared me with that one Rene.
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ME TOO...I was ready to jump off a bridge!!


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From what I hear, Walgreens bought out the remainder of the lease for Newest Lunch. When the building is ready to come down, Newest Lunch will leave and not re-locate/re-open again.


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ROTTERDAM
Capitol Plaza nearly cleared of businesses
Walgreens drugstore will be built on property

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

Like the rest of the nearly barren Capitol Plaza, the storefront at Newest Lunch remained dark Tuesday evening.
Inside, a scattering of booths and kitchen equipment was all that remained of the bar and grill that once bustled in the 1950s-era shopping center. The restaurant was one of the final businesses moved from Capitol Plaza last month, as HDB Ventures prepares to take ownership of the soon-to-be demolished building at Curry Road and Altamont Avenue.
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you’ll find an empty plaza,” said Bob Blank, a partner with HDB Ventures.
    Of the 15 businesses once located in the building, only Alesio Chiropractic remains. Blank said the owner of the plaza — Jeff Musiker — is relocating the business.
    Blank expects to complete the purchase of the building later this month and demolish it in late February or early March.
    The site should take about a week to clear, with work beginning on a 4,550-square-foot Walgreens drugstore shortly thereafter. Blank said the new drugstore should be built within five months and is anticipated to open sometime during the fall.
    Members of the town Planning Board approved the project in July 2006, but stipulated that the developer would need to acquire an eighth of an acre nearby the shopping center to ensure adequate parking. A dispute over the strip’s ownership stalled the project for nearly a year.
    In April, officials from the state Department of Transportation determined that the land belonged to Schenectady County, which promptly sold the parcel to HDB Ventures for $25,000. The sale wasn’t confi rmed until December.
    Meanwhile, the last vestiges of the shopping center are being liquidated, said George Keleshian, who is running the sale of all remaining equipment in the building for Musiker.
    Keleshian said any item not sold Monday will be moved at an auction on Jan. 17.
    Keleshian said an assortment of items from the New- est Lunch — including most of the bar signs and even the bar fixtures — have already been snapped up by restaurant owners around the Capital Region.
    Still, he said thousands of dollars worth of commercial kitchen equipment, restaurant furnishings and other remnants — everything from the doors to air conditioning units — remain to be sold.
    “Everything is being sold for 10 cents to 15 cents on the dollar,” he said.
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Okay...it has been amost SIX MONTHS since all of the businesses located in the old capital plaza relocated. When will that beast come down? When is Walgreens going to start their development?


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Funny, I was just talking to another business man about this yesterday - there's NOTHING happening ... it's like the entire project just died.  The property looks like hell, it's time to $hit or get off the pot for Walgreens and the development  company.  CVS on Altamont and Chrisler is humming right along - on schedule for a fall opening (or sooner based on their progress).
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It's like the building on the corner of Curry Road and Guilderland Ave.. CVS bought it...and the property, that looks like it's ready to fall down with a good wind, just sits there....empty!!!


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It's like the building on the corner of Curry Road and Guilderland Ave.. CVS bought it...and the property, that looks like it's ready to fall down with a good wind, just sits there....empty!!!



The problem with this one is that CVS needs the property behind it for a parking lot.  Until that happens they can't build, and the owners aren't willing to sell at this time.
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I would have thought that CVS would have bought all of the properties all at the same time. It could be years before the other property owners get their price and sell. So in the mean time we have to look at this deteriorating building every time we go through that intersection.


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The hold up, as I understand it, was First Class Products and 4 Corners Pizza who have a LONG term lease with First Class.  The cost to buy them out was VERY high, making it not as attractive to CVS.

They can wait it out longer than a tanking pizza shop.
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I think you are correct. I remember hearing that as well. I don't really know if the pizza place is 'tanking'. I don't go there so I don't know.

It would be nice if CVS at least tore the bulding down. In fact I think the town should insist on it, if they can. It looks absolutely terrible, right along with Capital Plaza, the old Grand Union, Eckhards(guilderland ave.), the library on the corner of guilderland and Roselawn and the Curry Rd shopping plaza beast. And how many years will Crounse's old farm house and barn by I88 remain standing?


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CVS should be given a time limit to fixing up the property whether they are in the building or not.........AND----it should have specs from our impressive town comp plan.......


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So what is the deal with Capitol Plaza?  According to the January article, Walgreens should be nearly complete by now.  It's a prime location so even in a difficult environment or if the Walgreens deal is dead, I would imagine there would be plenty of players in the wings.  All the same, I'm surprised at the lack of activity since they cleared out the tenants.
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I thought the hold up was DOT and Walgreens needing some of the public road for parking. There was something about the street that runs in back of the Plaza that runs from Curry to Altamont. I don't recall exactly...it was such a long time ago.


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It should be called Stall-greens......my observation is the waiting for sewers and the like......


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I thought the hold up was DOT and Walgreens needing some of the public road for parking. There was something about the street that runs in back of the Plaza that runs from Curry to Altamont. I don't recall exactly...it was such a long time ago.



I thought that the exemption had been approved?  Or am I misremembering that?
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I thought that the exemption had been approved?  Or am I misremembering that?
You might be right. It has been so long that I don't remember either.



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Maybe it's our required suspension of disbelief.




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Sometimes I think this stuff is deliberately kept quiet just so that we can't voice our opinions. And perhaps they will hope that we'll just forget about it until we see the bull dozers.


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I wonder if the watermain break, which looked like it flooded part of the Capitol Plaza will spur the take down of the building.  Maybe the Town could condemn the building from the water damage.  Nahhh..that'd be too easy.
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Walgreens drops Rotterdam move
After 14 businesses depart Capital Plaza, Illinois drug chain cancels expansion plan


By ALAN WECHSLER, Business writer
First published: Thursday, July 31, 2008

ROTTERDAM -- First the pizza place departed. Then the printing store left. The men's shop followed, as did the salon, the lunch spot and the chiropractic office.

     
By early 2008, 14 tenants had left the Capital Plaza, a 50-year-old shopping center at the busy corner of Curry Road and Altamont Avenue.

But it was all for naught. It seems plans for a Walgreens drug store -- the reason for this retail diaspora -- have been abandoned.

"Walgreens has no plans for a store in Rotterdam, N.Y.," wrote Carol Hively, a Walgreens spokeswoman, in response to a recent query on the status of the store. She did not respond to requests for more information.

The Deerfield, Ill.-based company operates nearly 6,300 stores, but has slowed down its expansion plans to save $500 million in the next three years, the company announced in early July.

Two years ago, developers had won approval to build a 14,700-square-foot Walgreens drugstore at 1925 Curry Road. HDB Ventures LLC of New Jersey had planned to demolish the plaza and begin construction last year.

It never happened. Property owner Jeff Musiker said HDB Ventures never even bought the property from him, despite a contract dating back more than two years. He said he's heard nothing about Walgreens abandoning the project.

"I don't know what's going to happen," he said. "As far as I know, Walgreens has a commitment."

Calls to HDB weren't returned.

The delay has left Musiker holding a plaza with no tenants. With storefronts empty and weeds growing around the perimeter, it's become an eyesore for the town and a weight on Musiker's back.

"I'm sitting on a building with no income and all the expenses," said Musiker, a stockbroker and financial adviser with Wachovia who owns the property through his own business, IJM Associates. "I might have to put it back as a shopping center."

That may not be so easy. Most tenants have set up shop elsewhere in town.

"We're doing very well," said Jacquie Bond, owner of La Bella Salon. She left her space at Capital Plaza in January and bought a two-story building down the road.

"It was a lot of work, and we had to rush to do it," she said. "It's kind of ironic -- all the hard times we all went through, and now to see (Walgreens) fall through."

Anthony Denning, owner of Vincy's Printing, moved two blocks to a building he now owns.

"We're doing fine in our new spot," he said. "It's probably one of the best things I ever did."

The plaza was built in the 1950s with a variety of spaces on several levels for both offices and stores. It brought a lot of independent businesses together in an area increasingly being taken over by chain stores.

Town officials say they still haven't lost hope that Walgreens will come in. On Wednesday, Peter Comenzo, the senior planner, had just phoned Musiker, the property owner, to ask him to clean up the property.

"It was nice in its heyday," said Lawrence DiLallo, the town's Planning Commission chairman. "It's not nice anymore."

Alan Wechsler can be reached at 454-5469 or by e-mail at awechsler@timesunion.com.
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They've spent their wad giving facade grants.  Gotta be time to apply for more funding sometime soon.
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I'm speechless! ALL of those tenants that were forced to move out for nothing. Although it appears that they have all found much nicer places to set up business.

And now Rotterdam is left with yet another empty beast. In our decaying economic times, the owner will be hard pressed to find tenants. Good ones that is! What a shame.


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The owner has to find new tenants!!! i can not feel sorry for him after  his other tenants had to scramble for new  locations  
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